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Post subject: Rethink about ratings

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:49 am

Grand Master

Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:16 am
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Been trying hard to get more rational about ratings. In the past I've been an intuitive ranter (sic) based on my experience of a puzzle. If I find it hard then it gets a high rating. If I have to work hard to read a walkthrough, then it should get a really high rating. A 1.50 rating walk-through should be easy to get through, just full of simple, elegant killer moves that are just instantly obvious once it's pointed out. If it feels too hard to be a V1 Assassin, it must be higher rating than 1.75 rating. If I need a tag to solve it, it must be higher than 1.75 rating. A 1.0 rating puzzle should feel really easy for all the regulars here. A snap. None of us should struggle. But very, very hard for any newbie's to this forum....oh how I miss the Oscars! If there is any possibility a newbie might find it hard to spot that move, rate up!!

Those are the sort of sentences that traditionally guided me. Full of subjectively. Now it's time to try and become more informed and in tune with you guys. That old way didn't work very well! So, please don't cover your ratings any more. Be free!!

But...I want to try and give you guys a different view of what the rating levels could mean in the hope that we can improve them for the next 100 puzzles. It seems obvious to me in what follows that something has gone astray the last 100 with at least the 1.0 ratings. Obviously, I'll have to adjust too so please persuade me. I'll try hard to let the numbers do the persuading. If I'm just being contrary, please tell me off!

OK, got that out of my system. The rest is pretty numbing but I hope is useful.

Have trawled through another 150+ permutations of the routine order in SS AND have brought down the weighting given to the harder routines. Have tried to get a routine order that is based on increasing complexity for human puzzlers (but SS doesn't always co-operate). I wanted to see if SS could give more accurate predictions of human ratings based on hardest technique used rather than weighted step counts. Where you put IOU seems to be a crucial decision. To me (and SS it seems) it belongs in 1.25. More on that in future posts.

This is an ALTERNATIVE scoring routine for SS that I'd like your feedback on. It seems to be a small but important improvement on accuracy compared to the current V3.3.1. Subject to your feedback and further tweaking, I'd like to ask Richard if he'll release a new version of SS with this scoring in it. I'll do a post with a full explanation and detail of the proposed routine order when I get it ready. SS is incredibly complex is the way it does things! I'll attach the ALT routine order (but not the change in routine weightings..sorry, that's confidential) [edit: emphasis added]. Download to your computer then open SS-options-import-save.

It would be great to have someone double-check these numbers. It's been a pretty complex exercise so there will be mistakes.

There are many assumptions I've made. Please tell me if they don't seem reasonable or need explaining. The ratings for A1-100 are taken from Archives A,B and C. The ratings for A101-194 (have left Manu's recent puzzles out because I want to try them yet) are the lowest rating by the walk-through posters. I have left out of the averages, scores that are about 1 full rating off.

Targets
0.75 = score 0.70-0.89
1.0 rating = 0.90-1.17
1.25 = 1.18-1.44
1.50 = 1.45-1.69
1.75 = 1.70....

Puzzles by forum rating 0.75 A1-194:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..1(0.75) 0.67   0.81|                      |                      |
|A..2(0.75) 0.77   0.88|                      |A112(0.75) 0.82   0.91|
|                      |                      |                      |
|A..5(0.75) 0.72   0.85|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|A..9(0.75) 0.69   0.82|                      |                      |
|A.10(0.75) 0.74   0.85|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|A.14(0.75) 0.68   0.81|                      |                      |
|A.15(0.75) 0.80   0.90|                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                               8 puzz Av 0.74   0.85         
|====================================================================|

6 of 8 puzz from 0.70-0.89 (vs 5 for v3.3.1) Slight improvement.
Av all 0.75 v3.3.1 8@0.74  vs ALT 8@0.85

Av all 1.0 following; ALT 1.17 vs v3.3.1 1.15
ALT gets the scoring target for 32 of 64 puzzles (2 more than v3.3.1)

Puzzles by forum rating 1.0 A1-75:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.17(1.00) 0.72   0.85|                      |                      |
|A.19(1.00) 0.82   0.93|A.31(H1.0) 0.97   1.09|A.57(1.00) 1.07   1.05| 
|                      |                      |A.63(1.00) 1.18   1.07|
|                      |                      |A.66(1.00) 1.28   1.18|
|                      |                      |A.67(1.00) 1.18   1.18| 
|                      |                      |A.70(1.00) 1.01   1.06|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |A.72(1.00) 1.16   1.14|
|                      |                      |A.73(1.00) 0.98   1.04|
|                      |                      |A.74(1.00) 0.99   1.01|
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                               11 puzz Av 1.03   1.05   
|====================================================================|

 8 of 11 puzz from  0.90-1.17 (vs 6 for v3.3.1); slight improvement

Puzzles by forum rating: 1.0 A76-150:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.76(1.00) 0.90   1.11|A101(H1.0) 1.13   1.14|A127(1.00) 1.21   1.16|
|A.77(1.00) 0.94   1.01|A102(H1.0) 1.11   1.25|A128(1.00) 1.33   1.34|
|A.79(1.00) 1.00   1.05|A104(1.00) 1.20   1.17|A129(H1.0) 1.46   1.39|
|A.81(1.00) 1.12   1.06|A106(1.00) 1.22   1.19|A131(1.00) 1.00   1.00|
|                      |A107(E1.0) 1.05   1.09|A134(1.00) 1.11   1.23|
|A.87(H1.0) 1.21   1.23|A109(1.00) 1.12   1.15|A135(H1.0) 1.46   1.43|
|uA93(1.00) 1.05   1.06|A110(1.00) 1.00   0.98|                      |
|uA96(E1.0) 0.89   0.92|A114(1.00) 1.15   1.02|A139(H1.0) 1.11   1.00|
|uA97(1.00) 0.95   0.98|A116(H1.0) 1.23   1.23|A140(1.00) 1.21   1.22|
|uA99(1.00) 0.87   1.06|                      |A144(H1.0) 1.29   1.14|
|                      |A119(E1.0) 1.11   1.04|A145(1.00) 1.29   1.19|
|                      |                      |A147(H1.0) 1.14   1.20|
|                      |A121(1.00) 1.19   1.19|                      |
|                      |A122(no overlap 1.69).|                      |
|                      |A124(1.00) 1.13   1.30|                      |
|                      |A125(H1.0) 1.05   1.10|                      |
|====================================================================|
 9 puzz  Av 0.99   1.05|13 puzz Av 1.13   1.14|11 puzz Av 1.24   1.21   
|====================================================================|

20 of 34 puzz  from  0.90-1.17 (vs 19 for v3.3.1); slight improvement

Puzzles by forum rating 1.00 A151-194:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |A165(H1.0) 1.28   1.29|                      |
|A151(E1.0) 1.36   1.37|A170(H1.0) 1.31   1.22|                      |
|A153(H1.0) 1.27   1.28|A171(H1.0) 1.26   1.27|                      |
|A154(H1.0) 1.39   1.34|A176(1.00) 0.96   1.15|                      |
|A155(H1.0) 1.09   1.10|A178(1.00) 1.27   1.26|                      |
|A156(H1.0) 1.32   1.32|A181(H1.0) 1.17   1.17|                      |
|A159(H1.0) 1.41   1.36|A186(H1.0) 1.22   1.23|                      |
|A161(H1.0)(1.69)(1.49)|A190(H1.0) 1.37   1.33|                      |
|A162(H1.0) 1.30   1.23|A192X(1.0) 1.07   0.97|                      |
|A164(H1.0) 1.36   1.32|A194(H1.0) 1.43   1.36|                      |
|====================================================================|
 8 puzz     1.31   1.29|10 puzz    1.23   1.23|                          
|====================================================================|

4 of 19 puzz from  0.90-1.17 (vs 4 for v3.3.1); both terrible

Av all 1.25 ALT 1.31 vs v3.3.1 1.30
ALT gets the 1.25 scoring target for 37 of 60 puzzles (6 more than v3.3.1)

Puzzles by forum rating: 1.25 A1-75:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |A.55(1.25) 1.52   1.40|
|                      |A.26(H1.25)1.43   1.38|A.59(1.25) 1.31   1.48|
|                      |                      |A.64(1.25) 1.26   1.31|
|                      |                      |A.65(1.25) 1.05   1.11|
|                      |                      |                      |
|A.18(1.25) 1.14   1.24|                      |A.68(1.25) 1.09   1.12|
|                      |                      |A.69(1.25) 1.26   1.29|
|A24(H1.25) 1.24   1.21|                      |                      |
|                      |A.33(1.25) 1.10   1.14|A.75(1.25) 1.19   1.38|
|====================================================================|
                                               11 puzz Av 1.24   1.28   
|====================================================================|

 7 of 11 puzz  from  1.18-1.44 (vs 6 for v3.3.1); slight improvement

Puzzles by forum rating 1.25 A75-150:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.78(1.25) 1.22   1.16|                      |A126(1.25) 1.25   1.24|
|                      |                      |                      |
|A.82(1.25) 1.11   1.17|A108(1.25) 1.09   1.15|                      | 
|                      |A111(1.25) 1.29   1.39|                      |
|A.84(1.25) 1.17   1.29|                      |A133(1.25) 1.33   1.24|
|A.85(1.25) 1.53   1.53|A117(1.25) 1.43   1.36|                      |
|A.86(1.25) 1.34   1.30|A118(1.25) 1.36   1.38|A136(E1.25)1.14   1.22| 
|A.88(H1.25)1.57   1.59                       |A138(1.25) 1.35   1.38|
|A.89(1.25) 1.16   1.18|                      |                      |
|                      |A120(E1.25)1.34   1.33|                      |
|A.91(H1.25)1.08   1.17|                      |A141(H1.25)1.47   1.40|
|uA94(H1.25) 1.66  1.55                       |A142(E1.25)1.39   1.39|
|uA95(1.25) 1.02   1.15|A123(H1.25)(prob)prob)|A143(E1.25)     (prob)|
|                      |                      |A146   (SS:no overlap)|
|uA98(1.25) 1.38   1.37|                      |A148(1.25) 1.33   1.30|
|                      |                      |A149(H1.25)1.68   1.64
|                      |                      |A150(E1.25)1.03   1.07|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
 11 puzz Av 1.29   1.31|                      |14 puzz    1.32   1.32   
|====================================================================|

15 of 28 puzz  from 1.18-1.44 (vs 13 for v3.3.1); small improvement

Puzzles by forum rating 1.25 A151-194:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A152(H1.25)1.26   1.05|A172(1.25) 1.48   1.28|A187(E1.25)1.07   1.06|
|A157(E1.25)1.32   1.21|A173(E1.25)1.46   1.42|A188(1.25) 1.45   1.46|
|A158(1.25) 1.52   1.43|A174(1.25) 1.48   1.54|A191(1.25) 1.34   1.32|
|A160(H1.25)1.24   1.21|A177(E1.25)(2.95)(    )A193(1.25) 1.21   1.19|
|A163(E1.25)1.10   1.33|A179(E1.25)1.30   1.32|                      |
|A166(1.25) 1.50   1.47|A182(1.25)(1.73)(1.62)|                      |
|A167(1.25) 0.97   1.02|A183(E1.25)0.97   1.11                       |
|A168(1.25) 1.58   1.58|A185(1.25) 1.55   1.43|                      |
|A169(H1.25)1.45   1.52|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
 9 puzz     1.33   1.31|                       10 puzz    1.33   1.31   10 of 21 puzz  from 1.18-1.44 (vs 7 for v3.3.1)
|====================================================================|

Average all 1.50 ALT 1.54 vs 3.3.1 1.62
11 of 15 puzz from 1.45-1.69 (vs 6 for v3.3.1); nice improvement

Puzzles by forum rating;1.50:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.60(1.50) 1.75   1.61|                      |A175(H1.50)(prob)     |
|A71(H1.50) 1.67   1.60|                      |A180(1.50)(2.20)(2.10)! 
|                      |A103(E1.5) 1.51   1.46|A184(H1.50) 1.77  1.65|
|                      |A105(E1.5) 1.37   1.33|                      |
|                      |                      |A189X(E1.5) 1.58  1.56|
|                      |A113(1.50) 1.54   1.45|                      | 
|                      |A115(1.5)  1.82   1.67|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|A80(1.50) 1.38    1.37|                      |                      |
|A83(1.50) 1.51    1.45|A130(H1.5) 1.76   1.61|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|uA100(1.5)1.71    1.61|A132(E1.5) 1.68   1.68|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                13 puzz Av 1.62  1.54  
|====================================================================|

!

1.75 etc:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate  v3.3.1  ALT|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.50(1.75)  2.58  2.10|                      |                      |
|A60                   |                      |                      |
|RP-Lite(1.75)2.53 2.10|                      |                      |
|CDKv3(1.75) 2.03  1.90|                      |                      |
|A64v2(1.75) 2.16  1.96|                      |                      |
|A65v3(1.75) 2.09  1.75|                      |                      |
|66v1.5(1.75)1.44  1.42|                      |                      |
|ND#9(H1.50) 1.83  1.60|                      |                      |
|A68v2 (1.75)1.45  1.34|                      |                      |
|M2    (1.75)1.94  1.76|                      |                      |
|A90  (H1.75)2.31  1.93|                      |                      | 
|====================================================================|
   11 puzz AV1.85  1.62                                               
|====================================================================

 4 of 10 puzzles in scoring range (vs 1 for v3.3.1); Looks better|

2.0+:

======================================================================
|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ## Rate  v3.3.1  ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |A57v2(2.0) 2.12   1.99|
|                      |                      |A.74                  |
|                      |                      |BWall(2.0) 3.54   2.94|
|                      |                      |A48 H(2.5) 5.05   3.87|
|====================================================================|

Cheers
Ed

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Post subject: Re: Rethink about ratings

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:16 pm

Grand Master

Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:32 am
Posts: 868

Ed wrote:

Now it's time to try and become more informed and in tune with you guys. That old way didn't work very well! So, please don't cover your ratings any more. Be free!!

A very wise decision. :applause:

Hopefully this revision will be followed by a review of the other rules and guidelines imposed on the Killer forum.

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Post subject: Re: Rethink about ratings

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:07 am

Grand Master

Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:16 am
Posts: 1044
Location: Sydney, Australia

Found some anachronisms with the last ALT routine order so have changed to ALT2. Also tweaked the individual routine weightings a bit more to get the correlation up a bit higher [edit: emphasis added].

To get another perspective, compared the scores to the second lowest rating from A101 following.

Also have some variants from the old days to add in for fun. Have also included a bit of the next part of this project. Still early days for that so your feedback welcome!

0.75 rating
Av all 0.75 ALT 8@0.86 vs v3.3.1 8@0.74

6 of 8 puzz from 0.70-0.89 (vs 5 for v3.3.1) Slight improvement.

0.75:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..1(0.75) 0.67   0.81|                      |                      |
|A..2(0.75) 0.77   0.88|                      |A112(0.75) 0.82   0.92|
|                      |                      |                      |
|A..5(0.75) 0.72   0.86|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|A..9(0.75) 0.69   0.83|                      |                      |
|A.10(0.75) 0.74   0.86|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|A.14(0.75) 0.68   0.82|                      |                      |
|A.15(0.75) 0.80   0.91|                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                               8 puzz Av 0.74   0.86         
|====================================================================|

Av all 1.0 following; ALT@1.11 vs v3.3.1@1.09

ALT gets the scoring target for 28 of 40 puzzles (6 more than v3.3.1) Big improvement

1.0:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|A ## Rate v3.3.1   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.17(1.00) 0.72   0.85|                      |                      |
|A.19(1.00) 0.82   0.94|A.31(H1.0) 0.97   1.10|A.57(1.00) 1.07   1.15| 
|                      |                      |A.63(1.00) 1.18   1.15|
|                      |                      |A.66(1.00) 1.28   1.15|
|                      |                      |A.67(1.00) 1.18   1.18| 
|                      |                      |A.70(1.00) 1.01   1.06|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |A.72(1.00) 1.16   1.17|
|                      |                      |A.73(1.00) 0.98   1.01|
|                      |                      |A.74(1.00) 0.99   1.02|
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                               11 puzz Av 1.03   1.07   
|====================================================================|

 9 of 11 puzz from  0.90-1.17 (vs 6 for v3.3.1); good improvement


Puzzles by forum rating with A101+ the second lowest rating with a walkthrough
======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.76(1.00) 0.90   1.13|                      |A127(H1.00)1.21   1.16|
|A.77(1.00) 0.94   1.01|                      |A128(1.00) 1.33   1.36|
|A.79(1.00) 1.00   1.04|A104(1.00) 1.20   1.17|                      |
|A.81(1.00) 1.12   1.06|                      |A131(H1.0) 1.00   1.01|
|                      |A107(H1.0) 1.05   1.07|                      |
|A.87(H1.0) 1.21   1.23|                      |                      |
|uA93(1.00) 1.05   1.07|A110(1.00) 1.00   0.96|                      |
|uA96(E1.0) 0.89   1.00|A114(H1.00)1.15   1.04|A139(H1.0) 1.11   0.98|
|uA97(1.00) 0.95   0.99|A116(H1.0) 1.23   1.24|                      |
|uA99(1.00) 0.87   1.04|                      |                      |
|                      |A119(1.0)  1.11   1.04|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |A121(H1.00)1.19   1.26|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |A124(H1.00) 1.13  1.30|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
 9 puzz  Av 0.99   1.06|                      |12 puzz Av 1.14   1.13   
|====================================================================|

16 of 21 puzz  from  0.90-1.17 (vs 13 for v3.3.1); some improvement


Puzzles by forum rating with A101+ the second lowest rating with a walkthrough
======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|A151(H1.0) 1.36   1.40|A170(H1.0) 1.31   1.21|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |A176(1.00) 0.96   1.13|                      |
|A155(H1.0) 1.09   1.09|                      |                      |
|A156(H1.0) 1.32   1.31|                      |                      |
|                      |A186(H1.0) 1.22   1.24|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |A192X(1.0) 1.07   0.98|                      |
|A164(H1.0) 1.36   1.35|                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                       |8 puzz    1.21    1.21|                          
|====================================================================|

3 of 8 puzz from 0.90-1.17 (vs 3 for v3.3.1); both terrible (note: 6 of 8 get H1.0 so not so bad after all)

Av all 1.25 following ALT@1.30 vs v3.3.1@1.30

ALT gets the 1.25 scoring target for 47 of 76 puzzles (14 more than v3.3.1)

1.25:

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |A.55(1.25) 1.52   1.40|
|                      |A.26(H1.25)1.43   1.39|A.59(1.25) 1.31   1.39|
|                      |                      |A.64(1.25) 1.26   1.35|
|                      |                      |A.65(1.25) 1.05   1.13|
|                      |                      |                      |
|A.18(1.25) 1.14   1.16|                      |A.68(1.25) 1.09   1.13|
|                      |                      |A.69(1.25) 1.26   1.30|
|A24(H1.25) 1.24   1.24|                      |                      |
|                      |A.33(1.25) 1.10   1.17|A.75(1.25) 1.19   1.33|
|====================================================================|
                                               11 puzz Av 1.24   1.27   
|====================================================================|

 7 of 11 puzz  from  1.18-1.44 (vs 6 for v3.3.1); slight improvement


Puzzles by forum rating with A101+ the second lowest rating with a walkthrough
======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.78(1.25) 1.22   1.21|A101(1.25) 1.13   1.14|A126(1.25) 1.25   1.29|
|                      |A102(1.25) 1.11   1.23|A129(1.25) 1.46   1.39|
|                      |A106(1.25) 1.22   1.22|A133(1.25) 1.33   1.30|   
|A.82(1.25) 1.11   1.19|A108(H1.25)1.09   1.08|A134(E1.25)1.11   1.23| 
|                      |A109(1.25) 1.12   1.15|A135(H1.25)1.46   1.40|
|A.84(1.25) 1.17   1.33|A111(1.25) 1.29   1.35|A136(E1.25)1.14   1.19|
|A.85(1.25) 1.53   1.49|A117(1.25) 1.43   1.33|A138(1.25) 1.35   1.39|
|A.86(1.25) 1.34   1.33|A118(1.25) 1.36   1.37|                      | 
|A.88(H1.25)1.57   1.62                       |A140(1.25) 1.21   1.24|
|A.89(1.25) 1.16   1.21|                      |A142(E1.25)1.39   1.40|
|                      |A120(1.25) 1.34   1.36|A143(1.25)      (prob)|
|A.91(H1.25)1.08   1.17|                      |A144(E1.25)1.29   1.16|
|uA94(H1.25) 1.66  1.51|A122(1.25) o'lp (1.65)|A145(E1.25)1.29   1.18|
|uA95(1.25) 1.02   1.14|                      |A146(H1.25)(no overlap)
|                      |                      |A147(1.25) 1.14   1.22|
|uA98(1.25) 1.38   1.41|A125(E1.25)1.05   1.12|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |A150(E1.25)1.03   1.08|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
 11 puzz Av 1.29   1.33|10 puzz    1.21   1.24|13 puzz    1.27   1.27   
|====================================================================|

 23 of 37 puzz  from 1.18-1.44 (vs 15 for v3.3.1); big improvement


Puzzles by forum rating with A101+ the second lowest rating with a walkthrough
======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |A171(1.25) 1.26   1.28|A187(E1.25)1.07   1.06|
|A153(1.25) 1.27   1.29|A172(1.25) 1.48   1.32|A188(H1.25)1.45   1.43|
|A154(E1.25)1.39   1.34|                      |                      |
|A157(1.25) 1.32   1.23|A173(1.25) 1.46   1.52|A190(E1.25)1.37   1.30|
|A158(1.25) 1.52   1.40|A174(1.25) 1.48   1.50|                      |
|A159(1.25) 1.41   1.36|                      |                      |
|A160(H1.25)1.24   1.17|                                             |
|A161(1.25) 1.69   1.52|A178(H1.25)1.27   1.25|A194(1.25) 1.43   1.38|
|A162(1.25) 1.30   1.20|                      |                      |
|A163(E1.25)1.10   1.33|A179(E1.25)1.30   1.33|                      |
|A165(1.25) 1.28   1.23|A181(E1.25)1.17   1.19|                      |
|A166(1.25) 1.50   1.47|A182(1.25)(1.73)(1.62)|                      |
|A167(1.25) (0.97)(1.03)A183(E1.25)(0.97)(1.08)                      |
|A168(1.25) 1.58   1.45|A185(1.25) 1.55   1.38|                      |
|A169(H1.25)1.45   1.51|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
 13 puzz    1.39   1.35|                       12 puzz    1.36   1.33

17 of 28 puzz from 1.18-1.44 (vs 12 for v3.3.1) big improvement

Average all 1.50 following; ALT@1.50 vs 3.3.1@1.56

10 of 23 puzz from 1.45-1.69 (vs 8 for v3.3.1); some improvement

1.50:

Puzzles by forum rating with A101+ the second lowest rating with a walkthrough

======================================================================
|A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |A ## Rate v3.3.1      |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.60(1.50) 1.75   1.61|                      |A152(1.50) (1.26)(1.18)|
|A71(H1.50) 1.67   1.60|                      |A175(H1.50)(prob)     
|                      |                      |A177(E1.50)(2.95)(    )
|                      |A103(1.5)  1.51   1.47|A180(H1.50)(2.20)(2.03)|
|                      |A105(1.5)  1.37   1.31|A184(H1.50) 1.77  1.75|
|                      |                      |A189X(1.5)  1.58  1.50|
|                      |A113(1.50) 1.54   1.51|A191(E1.50)1.34   1.33| 
|                      |A115(H1.5) 1.82   1.71|A193(E1.50) 1.21  1.23|
|                      |A123(E1.50)(prob)prob)|                      |
|A80(1.50) 1.38    1.35|                      |                      |
|A83(1.50) 1.51    1.45|A130(H1.5) 1.76   1.53|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|uA100(1.5)1.71    1.60|A132(1.5)  1.68   1.65|                      |
|                      |A141(1.50) 1.47   1.43|                      |
|                      |A148(1.50) 1.33   1.32|                      |
|                      |A149(1.50) 1.68   1.67|                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                18 puzz Av 1.56  1.50  
|====================================================================|

Some VARIANTS

Hidden Text:

1.0

======================================================================
|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A2X-Lite (H1.00)  1.21|A.25v2    H1.00 (2.07)|NON-CON    1.00   0.85|
|TransX-L  1.25    1.06|                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
1 of 4 in range

1.25
======================================================================
|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..1v2     1.25   1.09|A.20v2    1.25    1.20|A.40v2    1.25    1.28|
|A.58v1.5  1.25    1.22|A.63v1.5  1.25    1.36|A.68v1.5  1.25    1.27|
|A.70v3    1.25    1.14|A.71v1.5 H1.25    1.25|CS        1.25    1.35|
|A.74v2    1.25    1.27|DSurprise 1.25    1.07|A.76X     1.25    1.33|
|A.77v2    1.25    1.03|Radial   H1.25    1.45|Bored89-E 1.25    1.40|
|M.3       1.25    1.10|YAK94    H1.25    1.32|uA96v1.5 E1.25    1.22|
|uA.97v1.5 1.25    1.25|uA.97v2  H1.25    1.16|uA99v1.5 H1.25    1.58|
|====================================================================|
13 of 21 in range AV=1.25


1.50
======================================================================
|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|A ##       Rate    ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..2X      1.50   1.71|Uluru      1.50   1.40|A.17v2   (E1.50)(1.14)|
|A.21v2    H1.50   1.56|A.61X     1.50    1.31|A.69v1.5  1.50    1.66|
|A.71v2    1.50    1.44|A.72v2     1.50 (4.14)|A.73v1.5 H1.50    1.60|
|Mav.01   H1.50    1.73|A.78V2   H1.50  (2.30)|A.79RP    1.50    1.48|
|A.82V2x   1.50    1.34|A.84V2    1.50  (2.23)|Bored89  H1.50  (2.11)|
|M.4      H1.50    1.68|nd's#9   H1.50    1.61|uA.98v2  E1.50    1.31|
|uA99.5   E1.50    1.55|                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
7 of 19 in range  14@1.53

1.75
======================================================================
|A ## Rate          ALT|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.50      1.75    2.10|CDKv3      1.75   1.93|A.64v2    1.75    1.87|
|A.60RP-L  1.75    2.20|A.65v3     1.75   1.81|A.66v1.5  1.75    1.45|
|TransX    1.75    2.40|A.68v2     1.75   1.36|M2        1.75    1.75|
|A90      H1.75    1.99|uA.96v2    1.75   2.20|                      |
|====================================================================|
   5 of 11 puzz in range                                             
|====================================================================

 4 of 11 puzzles in scoring range  



======================================================================
|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ## Rate  v3.3.1  ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |A.48Hevvie 2.50   3.99|A57v2(2.0) 2.12   1.84|
|A.62v2    2.00        |A.74BWall 2.00    2.99|A.85V2    2.50    4.12|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|

Sneak Peak at classifying all SS routines with each puzzle included for hardest step

Hidden Text:

1.Naked single
2.naked pair
3.naked triple
4.naked quad
5."45" rule: single innie or single outie on any combination of nonets, rows or columns

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.08       41     0.82|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #5

6.hidden single
7.invalid cage combination in a normal cage: with possible redundant candidates
8.invalid cage combination in a hidden cage: with possible redundant candidates
9.hidden pair
10.Locked candidate for a nonet/row/column
11.invalid cage sum in normal 2-cell cage
12. invalid cage sum in
a. split cage with 2-cell split cage remaining
b. 2-cell hidden cage
13. NonCon cells
14."45" Rule Two Innies or two Outies:
a. Single house to find 2-cell outies
b. Multiple houses to find 2-cell outies
c. Single house to find 2-cell innies
d. Multiple houses to find 2-cell innies
e. split cage to find 2-cell outies
f. split cage to find 2-cell innies
g. OR two sINGLE houses to find double hidden 2-cell cage

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..1(0.75)b 13    0.81|A..5(0.75)d 15    0.86|A..9(0.75)c  20   0.83|
|A.10(0.75)e 10    0.86|A.11      c 18    0.89|A.12      b  32   0.85|
|A.13      c 10    0.84|A.14(0.75)c 10    0.82|A.17(1.00)g  13   0.85|
|A.21      c 35    0.85|A.23      d 42    0.87|                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #14

15.Locked cage
a. cage sum requires a candidate; locked for r/c/n
b. split cage sum requires a candidate

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #15

16. Locked Candidate (House/Cage): A cage that has the last place for a candidate in a house cannot have that candidate in that cage in another house

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #16

17. Forced cage candidate: a cage that has the last place for a candidate in a house -> all combinations must have that candidate with possible redundant candidate

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..2(0.75)   31   0.88|A.20         33   0.91|A.28        16    0.90|
|A.53         46   0.99|                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                               #17

18. Locked Candidates Centre Dot
19.Hidden triple
20. Hidden quad

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                               #20

21. Locked Cage Extended: all (remaining) combinations in a hidden cage require a candidate which locks that candidate (see A6 step 102)

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                               #21

22. Cage placement: invalid permutation in n-cell cage with (..) remaining candidates leads to redundant candidates
a. 3-cell cage
b. 3-cell hidden cage
c. 4-cell cage
d. 4-cell hidden cage
e. 5-cell cage
f. 5-cell hidden cage

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.04     (a15)19  0.87|A.19(1.00)(c17)52 0.94|A.25     (c14)    0.91|
|A.37     (a9) 72  0.97|A.40      (c23)   0.97|A.41     (c14)    0.89|
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                               #22

23. one cell cage block ie candidates remaining in one cell blocks combinations in a cage/split cage completely in the same house
a. 2 remaining candidates in one cell
b. 3 remaining candidates in one cell
d. 4 remaining candidates in one cell

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #23

24. NonConsecutive Cage Combinations
25. NonConsecutive Cage Placement
26. Forced Cage Candidates - Extended;ie redundant combos or candidates since last place for candidate in a house is only in
a.a hidden cage
b.or 4-cell combined cage

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #26

27. Killer pair between
a. one cell + one cage completely in same house
b. 2 normal cages both completely in same house

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.03      a  20   0.95|A.15(0.75)a  26   0.91|                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #27

28. Killer pair (SS calls this kind "Hidden killer pair") between
a. one cell + hidden cage completely in same house
b. one normal cage + one hidden cage both completely in same house
c. one cell + one 4-cell combined cage completely in same house
d. one cage + one 4-cell combined cage both completely in the same house
e. two 4-cell combined cages completely in the same house

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.31(H1.0)a  32   1.10|A.32      e   62  1.16|A.52      c   39  0.97|
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #28

29. Jigsaw LOL
30. Killer Law of Leftovers

31."45" Rule Simple Single House
a. 3 cell outies hidden cage
b. 3 cell innies hidden cage
c. 3 cells: mix of outies with innies on a single house (but don't see each other)
d. double hidden 3 cell hidden cage
e. locks a candidate
f. IOU

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.06     a  24    1.01|A.07     b  21    0.92|A.18(1.25)a  44   1.16|
|A.22     c  39    0.95|A.27     d  22    0.95|A.29      f  35   0.99|
|A.30     b  24    0.88|A.35     e  16c   0.88|A.39      d  23   1.00|
|A.51     f  65    1.09|A.54     e  60    1.13|                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #31

32. Cage Blocks
a. killer halves in one cage blocks combinations in another cage
b. killer halves in one cage blocks combinations in a hidden cage/split cage, or vice versa
c. killer halves in a hidden cage blocks combinations in a hidden cage
d. killer halves in one cage partially in a house blocks combinations in another cage
e. killer halves in a hidden cage partially in a house blocks combinations in a cage
f. killer halves in one hidden cage partially in a house blocks combinations in a hidden cage
g. killer thirds in one cage blocks combinations in another cage
h. killer thirds in one cage blocks combinations in a hidden cage
i. killer thirds in one hidden cage blocks combinations in another hidden cage
j. killer thirds in one cage partially in a house blocks combinations in another cage
k. killer thirds in a hidden cage partially in a house blocks combinations in a cage
l. killer thirds in one hidden cage partially in a house blocks combinations in another hidden cage

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.24(H1.25)k 98   1.24|A.33(1.25)h  72   1.17|A36       d  35   0.98|
|A.42       g 38   1.06|A.45      b  31   1.08|A.49      a  90   1.24|
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                               #32

33. simple Common Peer Elimination; 2 cells that must have a candidate for a house which eliminates that candidate from any common peers
42. Dependent Cage Sums: (AKA Locking Cages)

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #42

34."45" Rule Simple Multiple Houses: 3 innies or 3 outies in multiple nonets that are not rectangular (eg n124)
a. 3 innies
b. 3 outies
c. mix of innies with outies of 3 cell in total
d. locks a candidate
e. IOU

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.38       a  62  1.36|                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #

...invalid permutations in 3-cell hidden cage with possible candidate eliminations (see 116 step 51)

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #3

...2 cells block (not ALS block): permutations in a 3-cell cage restricted by (see A107 step 87)
a. one 2-candidate cell in another house, plus
b. another 2-candidate cell in another house

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|                      |                      |                      |
|                      |                      |                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                              #3

38. "45" Rule: Single House:
a. 4 cell innies or 4 cell outies on a single house or multiple house (except nonets around corners)
b. 4 cell for outer 2 columns: r12, etc
c. 4 cell innies on multiple houses (not nonets around corners)
d. 4 cell hidden cage killer halves blocks combinations in a cage in the same house
e. 4 cell hidden cage killer halves blocks combinations in a hidden cage in the same house
f. 4 cell hidden cage killer thirds blocks combination in a cage in the same house
g. 4 cell hidden cage killer thirds blocks combination in a hidden cage in the same house
h. mix of innies with outies of 4 cells around a single house
i. candidate locked from innies with outies on single house
j. candidate locked from innies or outies (not both) in multiple nonets
k. candidate locked from innies with outies in multiple nonets

======================================================================
|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|A ## Rate step #   ALT|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.16     c   36   1.05|A.26(H1.25)h  94  1.39|A46       h   65  1.24|
|A.47     j   77   1.19|A.48       k 111  1.18|                      |
|====================================================================|
                                                         
|====================================================================|      
                               #

Cheers
Ed

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Post subject: Re: Rethink about ratings

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:24 am

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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:16 am
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The release of SudokuSolver v3.5.7 is finally here, here. The new default scoring changes some of the routine order to fix some anomolies and to increase the correlation. As always, it's only an Assassin level puzzle scoring with the main emphasis on 1.0-1.50 ratings. The weightings have also been adjusted to bring the high scores down. To get a better match with the whole lot, the bottom starts highter but the top lower - ie, the whole lot forms a flatter line to get the emphasis onto the 1.25 ratings.

The overall correlation is now about 50% but also quite a few get just a little below the target range. So, about 6/10 puzzles get very close to the lowest rating given by Andrew or Afmob. Very happy with that!!

[Thanks to Andrew for some formatting suggestions and finding some puzzles I missed.]

New Target range v3.5.7
0.50 = 0.85
0.75 = 0.90-0.95
1.0 = 1.00-1.20
1.25 = 1.25-1.45
1.5 = 1.50-1.70
Summary 151/312 puzzle of rating 1.0-1.50 get in target range = 48%

Hidden Text:

! = 0.20 change from previous version v3.3.1
Archive A

======================================================================
|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..1       0.75  !0.85|A..5       0.75   0.85|A.12              0.85|
|A..1v2     1.25  !1.30|A..6              1.00|A.13              0.85|
|A..2       0.75   0.90|A..7              0.90|Uluru      1.50   1.30|
|A..2X      1.50   1.60|A..8              0.85|A.14       0.75   0.85|
|A2X-Lite  H1.00  !1.20|A..9       0.75   0.85|A.15       0.75   0.90|
|A..3              0.95|A.10       0.75   0.85|                      |
|A..4              0.85|A.11              0.90|                      | 
|====================================================================|
                               page #1 3/4 1.0 to 1.5

                          
======================================================================
|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.16       1.25   1.05|SKX1              1.05|A.22              0.95|
|UTA       H1.50  !1.85|A.19       1.00   0.95|SKX2             !2.35|
|UTAv2     H1.50   1.45|A.20       1.00   0.90|A.23              0.90|
|A.17       1.00   0.85|A.20v2     1.25   1.00|A.24     H1.25    1.35|
|A.17v2    E1.50   1.25|A.21              0.85|                      |
|A.18       1.25   1.05|A.21v2    H1.50   1.60|                      |
|====================================================================|
                              page #2 2/11 to 1.5


======================================================================
|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.25              0.90|SKX3             !1.10|A.32              1.00|
|A.25v2    H1.00  !1.85|A.30              0.85|A.32v2            1.00|
|A.26      H1.25  !1.25|Bullseye3  2.0   !2.55|A.32v3            0.95|
|A.27              1.00|A New One        !2.30|                      |
|A.28              0.90|A.31      H1.0   !1.20|                      |
|A.29              1.05|Last06   H1.25    1.25|                      |
|====================================================================|
                              page #3 3/4 to 1.5


======================================================================
|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.33       1.25   1.25|SKX4              0.85|A.36             !1.15|
|A.34      H1.25   1.35|SampuZ4           1.05|A.37              0.95|
|PANIV      1.50   1.35|SampuZ4v2        !2.25|CDK               1.00|
|A.35              1.00|Chevron          !1.15|CDKv2             1.00|
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|CDKv3      1.75  !1.75|A.38              1.35|A.39v3           !3.05|
|SampuZ5           1.00|Black-HoleX E1.5  1.25|A.40              0.95|
|NON-CON    1.00   0.90|A.39              0.95|A.40v2     1.25  !1.05|
|NameThatAlbumX   !2.45|A.39v2           !5.15|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.41              0.90|A.42v2      (t&E)!3.20|A.44v1.5         !1.55|
|A.41v2     (t&E) !4.40|A.43              1.25|A.44v2            1.70|
|Para's X         !1.60|A.43v0    E1.25   1.10|                      |
|A.42              0.95|A.44             !1.00|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.45              1.15|A.46Lite          1.05|A.48Hevvie 2.50  !3.75|
|A.45EEggsv2       1.90|A.47              0.95|                      |
|A.45EEggsv3      !1.75|A.47v1.5          1.00|                      |
|A.46              1.20|A.48              1.15|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.48Lite          1.10|A.50v2   3.0(t&E)!5.20|                      |
|A.49              1.10|A.50v0.2          0.85|                      |
|A.49v2    H1.25   1.45|                      |                      |
|A.50       1.75  !2.05|                      |                      |
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Archive B

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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.51              1.05|A.53v2            1.00|                      |
|A.52              0.90|A.53v2.5          1.10|                      |
|A.52v2            1.70|A.53v3           !2.20|                      |
|A.53              1.00|A.53V0.1         !2.05|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.54              1.10|A.56              0.90|A.57v2X          !1.70|
|A.54v2            1.30|A.56v2           !1.40|A.58              1.30|
|A.55              1.35|A.57       1.0    1.10|                      |
|A.55v2   2.0!(t&E)4.90|A.57v1.5  E1.5    1.35|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.58v1.5  1.25    1.30|A.60RP-L E1.75    2.05|A.61              1.40|
|A.59      1.25    1.35|A.50v2   3.0(t&E)!5.20|A.61X     1.50   !1.30|
|A.59v1.5         !1.85|SKX4v2    4.0      DNF|A.62      0.75   !1.05|
|A.60      1.50    1.60|A.61XV3     (t&E) 9.95|A.62v2    2.00   !3.35|
|A.60RP   !2.5(t&e)6.75|A.68v3    3 (t&E)!5.10|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.63      1.00    1.10|A.64v2    1.75   !1.85|A.66      1.00   !1.10|
|A.63v1.5  1.25    1.15|A.65      1.25    1.25|                      |
|A.63v2    H1.5    1.35|A.65v2           !2.75|                      |
|A.64      1.25    1.35|A.65v3    1.75   !1.75|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.66v1.5  1.75    1.35|TransX    1.75   !2.15|A.68v3    3 !(t&E)5.10|
|A.67      1.00    1.10|TransX-L  1.25    1.15|A.68v1.5  1.25    1.20|
|Vortex    1.75   !1.45|A.68      1.25    1.15|A.69      1.25    1.35|
|Vort-Lite 1.25    1.10|A.68v2    1.75    1.35|A.69v1.5  1.50   !1.70|
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.70      1.00    1.00|A.71v2    1.50    1.40|A.72v2     1.50  !3.80|
|A.70v2            1.65|A.71v1.5 H1.25    1.40|A.73       1.00   1.00|
|A.70v3    1.25    1.15|CS        1.25    1.25|                      |
|A.71     H1.50    1.60|A.72      1.00   !0.95|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.73v1.5 H1.50   !1.50|A.74BWall 2.00   !2.75|                      |
|Mav.01   H1.50   !1.65|A.75      1.25   !1.40|                      |
|A.74      1.00    1.00|                      |                      |
|A.74v2    1.25    1.20|                      |                      |
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Archive C
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|DS        1.25    1.05|A.77v2    1.25    1.05|A.79      1.00    1.05|
|A.76      1.00   !1.10|M2        1.75   !1.75|A.79RP    1.50    1.45|
|A.76X     1.25    1.35|A.78      1.25    1.30|                      |
|A.77      1.00    1.10|A.78V2   H1.50   !2.30|                      |
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.80      1.50    1.30|A.83      1.50    1.55|A.85      1.25    1.40|
|A.81      1.00    1.05|A.84      1.25    1.20|A.85V2    2.50   !3.85|
|A.82      1.25    1.10|A.84V2    1.50   !2.05|                      |
|A.82V2x   1.50    1.30|Radial   H1.25    1.40|                      |
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.86      1.25    1.25|Bored89-E 1.25    1.30|M.3       1.25    1.10|
|A.87     H1.00    1.25|Bored89  H1.50   !1.95|M.4      H1.50   !1.65|
|A.88     H1.25    1.60|A.90     H1.75   !1.95|                      |
|A.89      1.25    1.20|A.91     H1.25   !1.30|                      |
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|No A.92               |uA.95     1.25   !1.20|uA96v1.5 E1.25    1.15|
|uA.93     1.00    1.15|nd's#9   H1.50   !1.60|uA.97     1.00   !1.15|
|uA.94    H1.25    1.50|uA.96    E1.00   !1.10|                      |
|YAK94    H1.25    1.25|uA.96v2   1.75   !2.00|                      |
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|uA.97v1.5 1.25    1.20|uA.99     1.00    0.95|                      |
|uA.97v2  H1.25    1.25|uA99v1.5 H1.25    1.50|                      |
|uA.98     1.25    1.40|uA99.5   E1.50    1.45|                      |
|uA.98v2  E1.50    1.30|uA100     1.50   !1.45|                      |
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Archive D  
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| MO#1       1.00    !1.05 | Cycl V2    1.50          | A102X      1.00     1.25 |
| MO#2       1.25     1.25 | A101       1.25     1.10 | A103      E1.50     1.45 |
| Cycl V1   H1.00          | A102      H1.00    !1.40 | HS1       1.75!(t&E)3.15 |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| A104HBN!   1.00     1.25 | A106V2    H1.50    !2.05 | A107V2    E1.50     1.35 |
| A105      E1.50     1.35 | MO#3       1.00     1.00 | A108       1.25     1.15 |
| A106       1.25     1.20 | A107      H1.00     1.10 | A108V2     1.75    !1.55 |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| SOK1      E1.00    !1.05 | A110XV2   H1.25     1.35 | A112V2     1.25    !1.95 |
| SOK1 var   0.75     0.85 | A111       1.25     1.30 | A113       1.50     1.55 |
| A109       1.00     1.15 | A112       0.75     0.90 | A113-Lite  1.00    !1.30 |
| A110X      1.00     0.95 |                          |                          |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| MO#4       1.00     1.00 | A114 Twin  0.75          | A115V0.9   1.00     1.10 |
| A114       1.00    !0.95 | A114V3        !(t&e)4.05 | A115V2     1.50    !1.55 |
| A114V2    E1.50     1.20 | A115       1.50    !1.65 | MO#5      H0.75     1.00 |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| A116 Mars H1.00     1.15 | A118V0.9  H1.00    !1.15 | A119V2     1.25    !1.50 |
| A116 Venus 1.25    !1.40 | HS2x               !1.65 | A119V3               DNF |
| A117       1.25     1.25 | HS2x Lite H1.25(t&e)1.95!| SOK2                1.15 |
| A118       1.25     1.35 | A119       1.00     1.05 |                          |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| A120       1.25     1.25 | HS3x       1.50    !1.45 | A123      H1.25    !2.65 |
| A120V2    H1.50    !2.95 | A122       1.00    !1.65 | A123V0.9   1.25    !1.35 |
| A121       1.00    !1.00 | A122V1.5   1.25    !1.70 | A123V2     2.00    !2.55 |
| A121v2     1.25     1.00 |                          |                          |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| MO#6      H1.00     1.05 | A124V2     1.75    !2.30 | A125V0     0.75     0.85 |
| A124       1.00    !1.35 | A125      H1.00     1.20 | A125V2     1.25     1.45 |
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Archive E
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| A126      H1.00     1.15 | BK #1      1.25     1.25 | A129      E1.25     1.35 |
| A126V2     1.75    !1.65 | BK #2     H1.25     1.40 | A129V2    E1.50    !1.75 |
| A127       1.00     1.25 | BK #3     E1.50    !1.65 |                          |
| A128       1.00     1.20 | BK #4      1.50    !1.60 |                          |
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| A130      H1.50    !1.50 | A133      E1.25     1.35 | A136      H1.00     1.15 |
| A131       1.00     1.05 | A134       1.00     1.25 | A136V1.5  H1.25     1.45 |
| A132       1.50     1.55 | A135      H1.00     1.40 | A138       1.25    !1.05 |
|                          |                          | A139       1.00     1.00 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 140          H1.00    | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 140V1.5               | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       | !1.25 |
| Assassin 140V2                 |  1.75 |  1.75 |                       | !2.10 |
| JFFKiller 1                    |       | H1.50 | (Ed) 1.50             | !2.00 |
| Assassin 141          E1.50    | H1.25 |  1.50 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 142                   | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 142V2                 | E1.50 |  1.50 |                       | !1.60 |
| Assassin 142V3                 | H1.50 | H1.50 |                       | !2.00 |
| Assassin 142V4                 |       | H1.75 |                       | !2.50 |
| Assassin 142V5                 |       |  2.00 |                       | !3.35 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| JFFK2                          |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.95 |
| Assassin 143          H1.25    | E1.25 |  1.25 |                       | !1.95 |
| Assassin 143-Lite              |       |  1.00 |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 143V2         1.75    | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       | !2.55 |
| Assassin 144          E1.50    | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 144V2         2.00    | H1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 145          H1.00    |   **  |  1.00 |                       |  1.15 |
| Tarek's Killer Jonin           |       |       |No walkthroughs posted | !4.40 |
| JFFK3                          |       | H1.00 | (Ed) 1.25             |  1.10 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Tetris Killer                  |  1.25 | H1.25 |                       | !1.55 |
| Tetris KillerV2                |       | H1.25 |                       | !1.45 |
| Assassin 146                   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       | !2.50 |
| JFFK4                          | E1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.55 |
| Assassin 147                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 148           1.25    |   **  |  1.25 | (Ed) E1.50            |  1.25 |
| JFFK5                          |  1.25 | E1.50 |                       | !1.20 |
| Assassin 149                   | H1.25 | H1.50 | (Ed) E1.50            |  1.55 |
| Assassin 149V2                 | H1.50 | H1.50 |                       | !1.85 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 150                   | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 150V2                 | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 150V1.25              |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
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Archive F
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 151           E1.25   | E1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 151V2                 | H1.50 | H1.50 |                       | !1.50 |
| Assassin 152            1.25   |   **  | H1.25 | (Ed) E1.50            |  1.40 |
| JF"F"K6                        | H1.25 |  1.50 |                       | !2.40 |
| Assassin 153                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 153V2                 |       |  1.50 |                       | !1.85 |
| Assassin 154                   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       | !1.05 |
| Assassin 154V1.5               |  1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.55 |
| Assassin 155           H1.00   |   **  | H1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 156                   | H1.00 |  1.00 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 156V2                 | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       | !1.95 |
| Assassin 157                   |  1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 158          H1.25    |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 159                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Human Solvable 4X              |       |       |                       | !1.65 |
| Assassin 160                   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 161X                  | H1.00 |  1.25 | (U) 0.75              |  1.55 |
| JFFK7                  1.50    |       |  1.50 | Solved as a "tag"     | !1.80 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 162                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Human Solvable 5X              |       |       |                       |t&e10.2|
| Assassin 163           1.00    |   **  | E1.25 | (U) 1.00              | !1.35 |
| Assassin 163V2         1.75    |   **  |  1.25 | (U) 1.25              | !1.80 |
| Assassin 164                   | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 164V1.5               | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 165                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 165V2                 | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       | !1.35 |
| Assassin 166           1.25    |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.40 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 167                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.10 |
| JFFK8                          |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 168                   |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       | !1.30 |
| Assassin 169                   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 170                   |       | H1.00 |                       | !1.10 |
| Assassin 170V1.5               |  1.50 |  1.50 |                       | !1.40 |
| Assassin 171                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 171 Alt               |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 171V2.5               | H1.00 | H1.25 |                       | !2.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 172                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 173                   | E1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 174                   |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 175V1                 | H1.50 |  1.50 |                       | !2.30 |
| Assassin 175V0.75              |       | E1.50 |                       | !2.50 |
| Assassin 175V0.25              |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 175V0.5               |       | E1.50 |                       | !1.85 |
| Assassin 175V2                 | H1.50 |  1.50 |                       | !2.45 |
| Assassin 175V3                 | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       | !2.65 |
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Archive G
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 176            1.00   |   **  |  1.00 |                       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 176V1.5        1.25   |   **  | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 177                   | E1.25 | E1.50 |                       | !2.30 |
| Assassin 178V0.75              |       |  1.00 |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 178V1                 | H1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 178V1.5               |       |  2.00 |                       | !2.05 |
| Assassin 178V2                 |       |  2.50 |                       |t&e5.45|
| Assassin 178V3                 |       |       |No walkthroughs posted |  DNF  |
| Assassin 178V4                 |       |       |No walkthroughs posted |  DNF  |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 179          H1.00    |   **  | E1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 179V0.90              |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 179V0.96              |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 179V13                |       |       |No walkthroughs posted |t&e4.60|
| Assassin 180                   | H1.50 |  1.50 |                       | !1.85 |
| Smooth A180                    |       |  1.50 |                       | !1.45 |
| Assassin 180V0.10              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.80 |
| Assassin 180V1.5               |       | H1.50 |                       | !1.45 |
| Assassin 181                   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 182                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 182V0.10              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.80 |
| Assassin 182V0.20              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.85 |
| Assassin 182V0.75              |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 183                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 183V2                 |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 184                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.65 |
| Assassin 184 "Lite"            |       | E1.00 |                       |  1.00 |
| Human Solvable 6X              |       | E1.50 |                       |  1.10 |
| Human Solvable 6A X            |       | E1.50 |                       |  5.65 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 185                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 186                   | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.25 |
| Twosome 1                      |       |       |                       | !0.85 |
| Twosome 2                      |       |       |                       |  0.85 |
| Twosome 3                      |       |       |                       |  0.90 |
| Twosome 4                      |       |       |                       | !1.00 |
| Twosome 5                      |       |       |                       |  1.00 |
| Twosome 6                      |       |       |                       |  0.90 |
| Twosome 7                      |       |       |                       |  0.85 |
| Twosome 8                      |       |       |                       |  0.90 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Messier Merrier 1              |       |       |                       | !0.85 |
| Messier Merrier 2              |       |       |                       |  0.90 |
| Messier Merrier 3              |       |       |                       |  1.10 |
| Messier Merrier 4              |       |       |                       |  1.25 |
| Messier Merrier 5              |       |       |                       | !1.65 |
| Assassin 187                   | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 187V2                 |       |  1.50 |                       | !1.45 |
| Assassin 187V3                 |       | H1.50 |                       | !1.90 |
| Assassin 187V4                 |       |  1.75 |                       | !2.45 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Human Solvable 7X              | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       |  5.45 |
| Assassin 188                   |  1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 188PM                 | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 188V2                 |  1.50 |       |                       |  2.25 |
| Assassin 189X                  |       |  1.50 | (M) E1.50             |  1.45 |
| Assassin 35V1.5                |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Paper Killer                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 190                   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 190V2                 |       |       | Solved as a "tag"     | !1.80 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 191                   |  1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 191V2                 |       |  1.75 |                       |  2.00 |
| HBSS'F                         |  1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 192X                  |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.90 |
| Assassin 192XV1.5              |       |  1.50 |                       | !1.85 |
| Assassin 192XV2                |       |  2.00 |                       | !1.85 |
| Embedded Grid Killer           |       |       |                       |       |
| Paper Solvable 2X              |       |       |                       | !0.85 |
| Assassin 193X                  | E1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Anti-King Killer               |       |       |                       |       |
| Assassin 194          H1.00    |   **  |  1.25 |                       | !1.15 |
| Assassin 194V2        H1.75    |   **  |       | Solved as a "tag"     | !2.35 |
| Paper Solvable 3 (3 versions)  |       |       |                       |       |
| Assassin 195                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 196                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Minimum Cages Zero K           |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.80 |
| Minimum Cages 14               |       | E1.50 |                       |  2.50 |
| Assassin 197                   |       | H1.25 |                       | !1.50 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 198                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.60 |
| Paper Solvable 4               |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.90 |
| Assassin 199                   |       |  1.75 |                       | !1.50 |
| Assassin 199V0.25              |       |  0.75 |                       |  0.85 |
| Assassin 199V0.5               |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.95 |
| Assassin 199V0.75              |       |  0.75 |                       |  0.85 |
| Assassin 199V1.75              |       |  1.75 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 199V2                 |       | H1.75 |                       | !2.45 |
| Assassin 199V3                 |       | E1.50 |                       | !1.65 |
| Assassin 200                   |       | H1.25 |                       | !1.35 |
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                                    Page #9 3/5 1.0 to 1.5

Archive H
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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| HS 8 Boxes               | HS 8 V2                  |                          |  
| A201       H1.25    1.05 | A201v0.8   E1.00    0.90 | A201v0.9    1.00   !1.05 |
| A201v2      1.50   !2.15 | Gooders Sp  1.50   !3.95 |                          |
| A202       E1.25    1.10 | A202v0.85  E1.50    1.00 |                          |
| A202v2      1.75   !1.55 | A203        1.50    1.45 | PS5                      |
| Week256@KSO        !1.30 |                          |                          |
| A204        1.50   !1.70 | A205        1.50    1.40 | A206       E1.50    1.55 |
| A207       H1.50    1.55 | A208       E1.50   !1.65 | A209       E1.25    1.25 |
| PS 6                     |                          |                          |
| A210       H1.50    1.95 | A211       E1.50   !1.45 | A212        1.50    1.15 |
| A213       H1.50    1.55 | A213v1.5           !1.70 | PSXW7                    |
| A214       H1.25    1.25 | A215       E1.50   !1.40 | DJApe Insane        1.40 |
| A216        1.50    1.30 |                          |                          |
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                                             8/21 to 1.5

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| Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score | Puzzle    Rating   Score |
|-----------------------------------------------------+--------------------------|
| A216 V0.5   1.25    0.95 | A216 V2            !2.05 | A216 V7         !(t&e)5.0|
| A217               !1.40 | A218       1.50     1.30 | A219        1.50    1.45 |
| A220        1.25    1.15 |                          |                          |
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                                             0/4 to 1.5

Old Target range v3.3.1
0.75 = 0.70-0.90
1.00 = 0.95-1.15
1.25 = 1.20-1.40
1.50 = 1.45-1.65

Summary 120/315 puzzles get in the 1.0-1.50 ratings = 38%

Hidden Text:

Archive A

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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A..1       0.75   0.65|A..5       0.75   0.70|A.12              0.70| 
|A..1v2     1.25   1.05|A..6              1.00|A.13              0.70|
|A..2       0.75   0.75|A..7              0.80|Uluru      1.50   1.45| 
|A..2X      1.50   1.70|A..8              0.70|A.14       0.75   0.70| 
|A2X-Lite  H1.00   1.40|A..9       0.75   0.70|A.15       0.75   0.80| 
|A..3              0.85|A.10       0.75   0.75|                      |
|A..4              0.75|A.11              0.75|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.16       1.25   1.05|SKX1              1.05|A.22              0.80| 
|UTA       H1.50   2.35|A.19       1.00   0.80|SKX2              3.00| 
|UTAv2     H1.50   1.55|A.20       1.00   0.80|A.23              0.75| 
|A.17       1.00   0.70|A.20v2     1.25   1.15|A.24     H1.25    1.25|
|A.17v2    E1.50   1.25|A.21              0.70|                      | 
|A.18       1.25   1.15|A.21v2    H1.50   1.55|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.25              0.80|SKX3              0.90|A.32              1.00|
|A.25v2    H1.00   2.45|A.30              0.75|A.32v2            0.90| 
|A.26      H1.25   1.45|Bullseye3  2.0    3.80|A.32v3            0.90| 
|A.27              1.00|A New One         3.05|                      | 
|A.28              0.80|A.31      H1.0    0.95|                      |
|A.29              0.95|Last06   H1.25    1.10|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.33       1.25   1.10|SKX4              0.70|A.36              0.75|
|A.34      H1.25   1.40|SampuZ4           1.00|A.37              0.85|
|PANIV      1.50   1.30|SampuZ4v2         2.75|CDK               1.10| 
|A.35              0.85|Chevron           0.70|CDKv2             1.10|
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|CDKv3      1.75   2.05|A.38              1.20|A.39v3            4.10| 
|SampuZ5           1.00|Black-HoleX E1.5  1.30|A.40              0.85|
|NON-CON    1.00   0.75|A.39              1.05|A.40v2     1.25   1.25|
|NameThatAlbumX    3.30|A.39v2       (t&e)7.35|                      | 
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.41              0.85|A.42v2      (t&E) 4.80|A.44v1.5          1.75|
|A.41v2            4.75|A.43              1.15|A.44v2            1.75| 
|Para's X          1.95|A.43v0    E1.25   1.10|                      |
|A.42              0.90|A.44              0.80|                      | 
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.45              1.00|A.46Lite          0.95|A.48Hevvie 2.50   5.05| 
|A.45EEggsv2       2.05|A.47              0.95|                      | 
|A.45EEggsv3       1.95|A.47v1.5          0.85|                      |
|A.46              1.20|A.48              1.25|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.48Lite          1.25|A.50v2   3.0(t&E) 5.55|                      | 
|A.49              1.15|A.50v0.2          0.70|                      |
|A.49v2    H1.25   1.50|                      |                      |
|A.50       1.75   2.60|                      |                      |
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                              page #8 0/1

Archive B
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.51              0.95|A.53v2            1.05|                      |
|A.52              0.95|A.53v2.5          1.05|                      | 
|A.52v2            1.80|A.53v3            2.80|                      |
|A.53              0.90|A.53V0.1          2.65|                      |
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                          (+ratings posts)
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.54              1.05|A.56              0.80|A.57v2X           2.10| 
|A.54v2            1.20|A.56v2            1.70|A.58              1.25| 
|A.55              1.50|A.57       1.0    1.05|                      |
|A.55v2   2.0 (t&E)5.80|A.57v1.5  E1.5    1.40|                      |
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.58v1.5  1.25    1.20|A.60RP-L E1.75    2.55|A.61              1.45| 
|A.59      1.25    1.30|A.50v2   3.0(t&E) 5.00|A.61X     1.50    1.50| 
|A.59v1.5          2.15|SKX4v2    4.0      DNF|A.62      0.75    0.85|
|A.60      1.50    1.75|A.61XV3            DNF|A.62v2    2.00    4.40| 
|A.60RP    2.5(t&e)6.55|A.68v3    3  (t&E)7.25|                      | 
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                        (+"Unsolvables" posts) 3/4 1.0-1.5
                              page #3


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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.63      1.00    1.20|A.64v2    1.75    2.15|A.66      1.00    1.30| 
|A.63v1.5  1.25    1.10|A.65      1.25    1.05|                      | 
|A.63v2    H1.5    1.40|A.65v2            3.55|                      | 
|A.64      1.25    1.25|A.65v3    1.75    2.10|                      | 
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.66v1.5  1.75    1.45|TransX    1.75    2.80|A.68v3    3  (t&E)7.25| 
|A.67      1.00    1.20|TransX-L  1.25    1.00|A.68v1.5  1.25    1.25|
|Vortex    1.75    1.70|A.68      1.25    1.10|A.69      1.25    1.25| 
|Vort-Lite 1.25    0.95|A.68v2    1.75    1.45|A.69v1.5 E1.50    1.95| 
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.70      1.00    1.00|A.71v2    1.50    1.55|A.72v2     1.50   5.35| 
|A.70v2            1.80|A.71v1.5 H1.25    1.30|A.73       1.00   1.00| 
|A.70v3    1.25    1.15|CS        1.25    1.30|                      | 
|A.71     H1.50    1.65|A.72      1.00    1.15|                      | 
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|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|A ##       Rate  Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.73v1.5 H1.50    1.75|A.74BWall 2.00    3.55|                      | 
|Mav.01   H1.50    1.90|A.75      1.25    1.20|                      |
|A.74      1.00    1.00|                      |                      |
|A.74v2    1.25    1.15|                      |                      | 
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Archive C
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|DS        1.25    1.15|A.77v2    1.25    0.95|A.79      1.00    1.00| 
|A.76      1.00    0.90|M2        1.75    1.95|A.79RP    1.50    1.45|
|A.76X     1.25    1.20|A.78      1.25    1.20|                      |
|A.77      1.00    0.95|A.78V2   H1.50    2.65|                      | 
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.80      1.50    1.40|A.83      1.50    1.50|A.85      1.25    1.55| 
|A.81      1.00    1.10|A.84      1.25    1.20|A.85V2    2.50    5.25| 
|A.82      1.25    1.10|A.84V2    1.50    2.45|                      | 
|A.82V2x   1.50    1.35|Radial   H1.25    1.50|                      | 
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|A.86      1.25    1.35|Bored89-E 1.25    1.40|M.3       1.25    1.25| 
|A.87     H1.00    1.20|Bored89  H1.50    2.35|M.4      H1.50    1.85| 
|A.88     H1.25    1.55|A.90     H1.75    2.30|                      | 
|A.89      1.25    1.15|A.91     H1.25    1.10|                      |
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|No A.92               |uA.95     1.25    1.00|uA96v1.5 E1.25    1.25|
|uA.93     1.00    1.05|nd's#9   H1.50    1.85|uA.97     1.00    0.95|
|uA.94    H1.25    1.65|uA.96    E1.00    0.90|                      |
|YAK94    H1.25    1.10|uA.96v2   1.75    2.50|                      | 
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|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|A ##      Rate   Score|
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
|uA.97v1.5 1.25    1.20|uA.99     1.00    0.85|                      | 
|uA.97v2  H1.25    1.20|uA99v1.5 H1.25    1.55|                      |
|uA.98     1.25    1.40|uA99.5   E1.50    1.55|                      | 
|uA.98v2  E1.50    1.40|uA100     1.50    1.70|                      | 
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Archive D
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Messy One #1                   |  1.00 |  1.00 |(M)1.00                |  0.85 |
| Messy One #2           H1.00   |   **  | H1.25 |(M)1.25(Ed)1.25        |  1.10 |
| Cyclone V1              1.25   | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |       |
| Cyclone V2              1.75   |       | H1.50 |(M)1.50                |       |
| Assassin 101                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |(M)1.25                |  1.15 | 
| Assassin 102           H1.00   |   **  |  1.25 |(G)1.25(Ed)1.25(N)1.25 |  1.10 | 
| Assassin 102X           1.25   |  1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 103            1.25   | E1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.50 |
| Human Solvable 1               |  1.75 |       |                       | R4.10 |
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 104HBN!        1.00   |  1.00 |  1.00 |(M)1.0                 |  1.20 |
| Assassin 105           H1.25   | E1.50 |  1.50 |(Go)1.0(M)1.50(G)1.0   |  1.35 |
| Assassin 106            1.25   |   **  |  1.00 |(M)1.25(Ed)1.25(G)1.25 |  1.20 |
| Assassin 106V2         H1.50   |   **  | H1.50 |                       |  2.45 |
| Messy One #3                   |  1.00 | H1.00 |(G)1.0                 |  0.95 |
| Assassin 107            1.25   | H1.00 | H1.25 |(Ed)E1.0               |  1.05 |
| Assassin 107V2          1.75   | E1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 108                   |  1.25 | H1.25 |(Ed)H1.25(G)1.50       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 108V2                 |  1.75 |  1.75 |                       |  1.75 |
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| SOK1                           | E1.00 | E1.00 |                       |  0.80 |
| SOK1 var                       |       |  0.75 |                       |  0.75 |
| Assassin 109           E1.25   |  1.25 | H1.25 |(M)1.0                 |  1.10 |
| Assassin 110X                  |  1.00 |  1.00 |(M)1.0                 |  1.00 |
| Assassin 110XV2         1.50   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 111           E1.50   |  1.25 | H1.50 |(G)1.25                |  1.30 |
| Assassin 112           H0.75   |   **  |  0.75 |(F)H0.75(G)H0.5        |  0.80 |
| Assassin 112V2          1.25   |   **  |  1.50 |(M)1.50                |  2.50 |
| Assassin 113           H1.25   |  1.50 |  1.50 |(Go)1.50(Ed)2.0        |  1.55 |
| Assassin 113-Lite       1.00   |       |  1.00 |                       |  1.05 | 
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Messy One #4            1.00   | H1.00 |  1.00 |(G)1.0(Ed)H1.0         |  0.95 |
| Assassin 114           E1.00   |  1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 114V2         E1.25   | E1.50 |  1.50 |(M)1.50                |  1.30 |
| Assassin 114 Twin      H1.25   |       |  0.75 |(U)0.50(P)H0.50(N)0.75 |       |
| Assassin 114V3                 |       |       |                       |  5.80 | 
| Assassin 115"Beijing"  H1.25   | H1.50 |  1.50 |(Az)H1.25              |  1.80 | 
| Assassin 115V0.9       H0.75   |       | E1.25 |(M)1.0(U)0.75          |  1.05 | 
| Assassin 115V2         E1.75   |  1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.80 |
| Messy One #5            0.75   | H0.75 | H0.75 |(Az)1.0                |  0.90 | 
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 116 Mars      H1.00   |   **  | H1.00 |(U)E1.0                |  1.25 |
| Assassin 116 Venus      1.50   | H1.50 |  1.50 |(M)1.25                |  1.70 |
| Ass. 117 Hammer Throw  E1.25   |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 | 
| Assassin 118                   |  1.25 |  1.25 |(Az)H1.0               |  1.35 |
| Assassin 118V0.9               |       | H1.00 |(U)E1.0                |  1.40 | 
| Human Solvable 2X              |       |       |(U)H1.25               |  2.45 |
| Human Solvable 2X Lite H1.25   |   **  |       |                       |  2.80 | 
| Assassin 119            1.00   |   **  |  1.00 |(U)E1.0                |  1.10 |
| Assassin 119V2          1.25   |   **  |  1.50 |(U)H1.50               |  1.70 |
| Assassin 119V3                 |       |       |                       |  DNF  |
| SOK2                           |  1.00 |  1.00 |                       |  1.20 |
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Ass. 120 "Twin Towers"  1.25   | E1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 120V2                 | H1.50 |  1.75 |(Ed)1.75               |  3.80 | 
| Assassin 121            1.00   |  1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 121V2          1.25   |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 | 
| Human Solvable 3X      H0.75   |  1.50 |  1.50 |(N)1.50(Ed)1.50        |  4.30 | 
| Assassin 122            1.00   |   **  |  1.25 |(Ed)H1.0               |  1.85 |
| Assassin 122V1.5       H1.25   |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.90 |
| Ass. 123 "Roulette"            | H1.25 |       |(Ed)E1.50              | R3.35 | 
| Assassin A123V0.9              |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.55 |
| Assassin 123V2                 |  2.00 |       |                       | R3.95 | 
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Messy One #6                   | H1.00 |       |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 124                   |  1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.15 | 
| Assassin 124V2                 | H1.75 |  1.75 |                       |  2.95 |
| Assassin 125            1.00   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.05 |
| Assassin 125V0          0.75   |       |  0.75 |                       |  0.70 |
| Assassin 125V2          1.50   |  1.25 |  1.50 |                       |  1.55 |
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Archive E
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 126           H1.00   |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 126V2          1.75   |   **  | H1.75 | Solved as a "tag"     |  2.15 |
| Assassin 127            1.25   |  1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 128            1.00   |  1.00 |  1.00 |                       |  1.35 |
| Boredom Killer #1      E1.25   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.40 |
| Boredom Killer #2      H1.25   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Boredom Killer #3       1.50   | E1.50 | H1.50 |                       |  1.90 |
| Boredom Killer #4       1.75   |  1.50 | H1.50 |                       |  1.80 |
| Assassin 129           E1.25   |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 129V2         E1.50   |   **  | E1.50 |                       |  2.05 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 130          H1.50    | H1.50 |  1.75 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 131                   |  1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.00 |
| Assassin 132           1.50    |   **  |  1.50 |                       |  1.70 |
| Assassin 133           1.25    |  1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 134                   |  1.00 | E1.25 | (M)SSscore reasonable |  1.10 |
| Assassin 135"Presents" 1.25    | H1.00 | H1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 136          H1.00    |   **  |       | (Ed) E1.25            |  1.15 |
| Assassin 136V1.5      H1.25    |   **  | H1.25 | (Ed) H1.25            |  1.40 |
| There was no Assassin 137      |       |       |                       |       |
| Assassin 138          H1.00    |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.35 | 
| Assassin 139           1.00    |   **  | H1.00 |                       |  1.10 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 140          H1.00    | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Assassin 140V1.5               | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 | 
| Assassin 140V2                 |  1.75 |  1.75 |                       |  2.50 | 
| JFFKiller 1                    |       | H1.50 | (Ed) 1.50             |  2.20 |
| Assassin 141          E1.50    | H1.25 |  1.50 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 142                   | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 142V2                 | E1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.80 |
| Assassin 142V3                 | H1.50 | H1.50 |                       |  2.35 |
| Assassin 142V4                 |       | H1.75 |                       |  3.20 |
| Assassin 142V5                 |       |  2.00 |                       |  4.85 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| JFFK2                          |       |  1.00 |                       |  1.05 |
| Assassin 143          H1.25    | E1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  2.40 | 
| Assassin 143-Lite              |       |  1.00 |                       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 143V2         1.75    | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       |  3.55 | 
| Assassin 144          E1.50    | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.05 | 
| Assassin 144V2         2.00    | H1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 145          H1.00    |   **  |  1.00 |                       |  1.30 | 
| Tarek's Killer Jonin           |       |       |No walkthroughs posted |  5.25 |
| JFFK3                          |       | H1.00 | (Ed) 1.25             |  1.10 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Tetris Killer                  |  1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.90 | 
| Tetris KillerV2                |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.40 | 
| Assassin 146                   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  3.50 |
| JFFK4                          | E1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.65 |
| Assassin 147                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 148           1.25    |   **  |  1.25 | (Ed) E1.50            |  1.35 |
| JFFK5                          |  1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 149                   | H1.25 | H1.50 | (Ed) E1.50            |  1.70 |
| Assassin 149V2                 | H1.50 | H1.50 |                       |  2.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 150                   | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.05 |
| Assassin 150V2                 | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       |  1.70 | 
| Assassin 150V1.25              |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
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Archive F
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 151           E1.25   | E1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 151V2                 | H1.50 | H1.50 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 152            1.25   |   **  | H1.25 | (Ed) E1.50            |  1.25 |
| JF"F"K6                        | H1.25 |  1.50 |                       |  2.75 |
| Assassin 153                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 153V2                 |       |  1.50 |                       |  2.35 |
| Assassin 154                   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.40 | 
| Assassin 154V1.5               |  1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 155           H1.00   |   **  | H1.25 |                       |  1.10 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 156                   | H1.00 |  1.00 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 156V2                 | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  2.35 |
| Assassin 157                   |  1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 158          H1.25    |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.50 |
| Assassin 159                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.40 | 
| Human Solvable 4X              |       |       |                       |  2.00 |
| Assassin 160                   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 161X                  | H1.00 |  1.25 | (U) 0.75              |  1.70 |
| JFFK7                  1.50    |       |  1.50 | Solved as a "tag"     |  2.15 | 
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 162                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Human Solvable 5X              |       |       |                       |  DNF  |
| Assassin 163           1.00    |   **  | E1.25 | (U) 1.00              |  1.10 |
| Assassin 163V2         1.75    |   **  |  1.25 | (U) 1.25              |  2.00 |
| Assassin 164                   | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.35 | 
| Assassin 164V1.5               | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 165                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 165V2                 | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 166           1.25    |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.50 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 167                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  0.95 |
| JFFK8                          |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 168                   |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 169                   | H1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 170                   |       | H1.00 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 170V1.5               |  1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  1.60 |
| Assassin 171                   | H1.00 |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 171 Alt               |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.40 | 
| Assassin 171V2.5               | H1.00 | H1.25 |                       |  2.55 | 
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 172                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.50 | 
| Assassin 173                   | E1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 174                   |  1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.50 |
| Assassin 175V1                 | H1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  2.80 |
| Assassin 175V0.75              |       | E1.50 |                       |  3.35 |
| Assassin 175V0.25              |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 175V0.5               |       | E1.50 |                       |  2.05 |
| Assassin 175V2                 | H1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  3.20 |
| Assassin 175V3                 | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       |  3.45 |
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Archive G
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 176            1.00   |   **  |  1.00 |                       |  0.95 | 
| Assassin 176V1.5        1.25   |   **  | E1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 177                   | E1.25 | E1.50 |                       | *2.95 |
| Assassin 178V0.75              |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.95 |
| Assassin 178V1                 | H1.25 |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 178V1.5               |       |  2.00 |                       |  2.55 |
| Assassin 178V2                 |       |  2.50 |                       |  DNF  |
| Assassin 178V3                 |       |       |No walkthroughs posted |  DNF  |
| Assassin 178V4                 |       |       |No walkthroughs posted |  DNF  |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 179          H1.00    |   **  | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 | 
| Assassin 179V0.90              |       | E1.25 |                       |  0.90 |
| Assassin 179V0.96              |       | E1.25 |                       |  0.95 |
| Assassin 179V13                |       |       |No walkthroughs posted | 12.85 | 
| Assassin 180                   | H1.50 |  1.50 |                       |  2.20 |
| Smooth A180                    |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 180V0.10              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.65 |
| Assassin 180V1.5               |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.80 |
| Assassin 181                   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 182                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 182V0.10              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.65 |
| Assassin 182V0.20              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.70 |
| Assassin 182V0.75              |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 |
| Assassin 183                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  0.95 |
| Assassin 183V2                 |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 184                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 184 "Lite"            |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.95 |
| Human Solvable 6X              |       | E1.50 |                       |  1.05 |
| Human Solvable 6A X            |       | E1.50 |                       |  5.80 | 
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 185                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.55 |
| Assassin 186                   | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.20 |
| Twosome 1                      |       |       |                       |  0.65 |
| Twosome 2                      |       |       |                       |  0.70 |
| Twosome 3                      |       |       |                       |  0.75 |
| Twosome 4                      |       |       |                       |  0.80 |
| Twosome 5                      |       |       |                       |  0.90 |
| Twosome 6                      |       |       |                       |  1.00 |
| Twosome 7                      |       |       |                       |  0.70 |
| Twosome 8                      |       |       |                       |  0.75 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Messier Merrier 1              |       |       |                       |  0.65 |
| Messier Merrier 2              |       |       |                       |  0.85 |
| Messier Merrier 3              |       |       |                       |  1.10 |
| Messier Merrier 4              |       |       |                       |  1.30 |
| Messier Merrier 5              |       |       |                       |  1.95 |
| Assassin 187                   | E1.25 | E1.25 |                       |  1.05 |
| Assassin 187V2                 |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 187V3                 |       | H1.50 |                       |  2.35 |
| Assassin 187V4                 |       |  1.75 |                       |  3.10 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Human Solvable 7X              | E1.75 | E1.75 |                       |  5.40 |
| Assassin 188                   |  1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 188PM                 | H1.00 | H1.00 |                       |  1.40 |
| Assassin 188V2                 |  1.50 |       |                       |  2.30 |
| Assassin 189X                  |       |  1.50 | (M) E1.50             |  1.60 |
| Assassin 35V1.5                |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.20 |
| Paper Killer                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.10 |
| Assassin 190                   | H1.00 | E1.25 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 190V2                 |       |       | Solved as a "tag"     |  2.15 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 191                   |  1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.35 |
| Assassin 191V2                 |       |  1.75 |                       |  1.95 |
| HBSS'F                         |  1.25 | H1.25 |                       |  1.15 |
| Assassin 192X                  |       |  1.00 |                       |  1.05 |
| Assassin 192XV1.5              |       |  1.50 |                       |  2.05 |
| Assassin 192XV2                |       |  2.00 |                       |  2.10 |
| Embedded Grid Killer           |       |       |                       |       |
| Paper Solvable 2X              |       |       |                       |  0.65 |
| Assassin 193X                  | E1.25 | E1.50 |                       |  1.20 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Anti-King Killer               |       |       |                       |       |
| Assassin 194          H1.00    |   **  |  1.25 |                       |  1.45 |
| Assassin 194V2        H1.75    |   **  |       | Solved as a "tag"     |  3.10 |
| Paper Solvable 3 (3 versions)  |       |       |                       |       |
| Assassin 195                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Assassin 196                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
| Minimum Cages Zero K           |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.90 | 
| Minimum Cages 14               |       | E1.50 |                       |  2.65 |
| Assassin 197                   |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.80 |
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 198                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.45 |
| Paper Solvable 4               |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.85 |
| Assassin 199                   |       |  1.75 |                       |  1.80 |
| Assassin 199V0.25              |       |  0.75 |                       |  0.70 |
| Assassin 199V0.5               |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.85 | 
| Assassin 199V0.75              |       |  0.75 |                       |  1.00 | 
| Assassin 199V1.75              |       |  1.75 |                       |  1.75 |
| Assassin 199V2                 |       | H1.75 |                       |  1.75 | 
| Assassin 199V3                 |       | E1.50 |                       |  2.35 |
| Assassin 200                   |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.10 |
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Archive H
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| Puzzle                  Est    | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |  
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Human Solvable 8 Boxes         |       |       |                       |       |  
| HS 8 V2                        |       |       |                       |       |  
| Assassin 201 V0.8              |       | E1.00 |                       |  0.80 |  
| Assassin 201 V0.9              |       |  1.00 |                       |  0.85 |  
| Assassin 201 V1                |       | H1.25 |                       |  0.85 |   
| Assassin 201 V2                |       | H1.50 |                       |  2.50 |  
| goooders' Special 1   H1.75    |       |  1.50 |                       |  7.00 |  
| Assassin 202 V0.85             |       | E1.50 |                       |  0.85 |  
| Assassin 202 V1                |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.20 |  
| Assassin 202 V2                |       |  1.75 |                       |  1.80 |  
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 203                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.60 |  
| Paper Solvable 5               |       |  1.25 |                       |       |  
| Weekly No.256 @ KSO            |       |       |                       |  1.45 |  
| Assassin 204                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  2.00 |  
| Assassin 205                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.55 |  
| Assassin 206                   |       | E1.50 |                       |  1.60 |  
| Assassin 207                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.70 |  
| Assassin 208                   |       | E1.50 |                       |  1.85 |  
| Assassin 209                   |       | E1.25 |                       |  1.30 |  
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Paper Solvable 6               |       |       |                       |       |  
| Assassin 210                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  2.15 |  
| Assassin 211                   |       | E1.50 |                       |  1.25 |  
| Assassin 212                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.20 |  
| Assassin 213                   |       | H1.50 |                       |  1.65 |  
| Assassin 213 V1.5              |       |       |                       |  2.05 |
| Paper Solvable X W7            |       |       |                       |       |  
| Assassin 214                   |       | H1.25 |                       |  1.35 |  
| Assassin 215                   |       | E1.50 |                       |  1.65 |
| DJApe Insane                   |       |       |                       |  1.50 |  
| Assassin 216                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.40 |  
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| Puzzle                 Est     | Afmob | Andrew|     Other Raters      | Score |
|--------------------------------+-------+-------+-----------------------+-------|
| Assassin 216 V0.5              |       |  1.25 |                       |  0.95 |  
| Assassin 216 V2                |       |       |                       |  2.50 |  
| Assassin 216 V7                |       |       |                       |  7.00 |  
| Assassin 217                   |       |       |                       |  1.70 |  
| Assassin 218                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.40 |  
| Assassin 219                   |       |  1.50 |                       |  1.50 |   
| Assassin 220                   |       |  1.25 |                       |  1.25 |
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Andrew

Post subject: Re: Rethink about ratings

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:58 am

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Congratulations Ed on your 500th post on this forum! :applause:

That makes three of us now.

You really have put a lot of work into SS scoring, to try to bring it more into line with human scoring, not that this is always correct as it's so subjective.

I found it interesting that part of the improved agreement between the latest SS scores and the lowest ratings by Afmob and myself (thanks for mentioning us

) was to redefine the scores which a particular range represents.

Ever since I started giving ratings, sometime after Mike posted his original ratings message, I've taken the view that the 1.25 range, for example, covers ratings from 1.15 to 1.35 with Easy 1.25 being about 1.25, 1.25 being about that value and Hard 1.25 being about 1.35.

However having said that, I don't do my ratings that way. My ratings take account of the hardest steps used and also, in some cases, the difficulty in spotting them. If I feel that a solving path is in the 1.25 range but at the bottom end of that range then I'll rate it at Easy 1.25, similarly if I feel that it is at the top of that range then I'll rate it at Hard 1.25. I never think that it is 1.15 or 1.35; that's only for software scoring.

Finally, I think it has become generally recognised that human scoring is based on hardest steps used and possibly also difficulty in spotting them. We know that software scoring is an averaging process, which clearly can't take account of difficulty in spotting steps because the software doesn't know what is difficult to see. It's amazing, therefore, that there's such good agreement between human ratings and software scores. Well done Ed and Richard!!

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