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 Post subject: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:00 pm 
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This Assassin offers lots of Innies and Outies to analyze. Use the right ones and together with basic killer techniques you can solve fast.

Note that this Killer was derived from a famous Sudoku. Do you know which one?

Hint : This Sudoku is as hard as metal.
Hint 2: Ed said a part of its name in his wt post.

Assassin 102

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3x3::k:6144:6144:6144:4611:4611:4611:6150:6150:6150:4105:6144:6144:2828:2828:2828:6150:6150:3089:4105:3859:1300:1300:5654:4375:4375:4121:3089:4105:3859:3859:5654:5654:5654:4121:4121:3089:5668:5668:2342:6183:6183:6183:3114:2859:2859:2349:5668:2342:3632:6183:5170:3114:2859:3381:2349:3632:3632:5689:6183:3387:5170:5170:3381:2349:1600:5689:5689:3907:3387:3387:2886:3381:1600:3657:3657:3907:3907:3907:2638:2638:2886:

Solution:

7 5 1 8 4 6 2 3 9
8 9 2 3 7 1 4 6 5
6 4 3 2 5 9 8 7 1
2 3 8 1 9 7 5 4 6
9 7 4 5 6 2 3 1 8
1 6 5 4 3 8 9 2 7
3 1 9 6 8 4 7 5 2
5 2 7 9 1 3 6 8 4
4 8 6 7 2 5 1 9 3

SS Score (v3.1): 1.09
Estimated rating: 1.0 - Hard 1.0. It felt nearly (but not quite) as difficult as A101.


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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:34 pm 
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Please excuse my ignorance but how do you access the tiny text on these postings?

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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:28 pm 
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gary w wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance but how do you access the tiny text on these postings?

Normal cut & paste: mark the tiny text, press Ctrl-C, select your favorite editor and paste it there by pressing Ctrl-V.

BTW, you don't have to do anything about the tiny text in the line starting with 3x3:... Just copy the entire line and paste it to your favorite Killer solver program, they can handle it for you (at least SudokuSolver, JSudoku and SumoCue can).

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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:47 am 
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gary w wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance but how do you access the tiny text on these postings?

Nasenbaer has given the basic answer, which is what I used to do when tiny text first appeared on Ruud's website.

Then I discovered that it's much easier to select the tiny text you are interested in if you click Quote first. In fact if you are only interested in reading the TT that's all you need to do. I find it sufficient for checking TT solutions against my Excel worksheet after I have solved a puzzle.


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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:42 pm 
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Many thanks for the above answers.
Now to Afmob's puzzle which based on my solving time (2 hours plus) I'ld rate about 1.25



r3c7+r6c9=15 8/9 and 6/7
n6 9 not in c9
c9 9 at r1 or r9
outies c1 -> r9c1=4/5 r8c2=1/2
now easy to see that if
r3c7=9 r9c9=9 r6c9=6 and so cannot place a 1 in n9 so r3c7=8
comes out pretty quickly now



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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:56 am 
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About A102 Afmob wrote:
Note that this Killer was derived from a famous Sudoku. Do you know which one?
No idea. Don't know any famous vanilla! Bit one-eyed!

A102 is a really fun puzzle - lots of hidden nuggets. No chains needed, though agree with gary on the 1.25 rating. Did use one complex implied cage block. No real cage-placement/combination work either which was a relief after I kept going wrong in n5 with A101 :scratch: . I don't seem to enjoy 'fiddly' stuff anymore, but try very hard to get the clean-up done on-the-spot. Please let me know if I missed any or need corrections. [edit- I did: Thanks Andrew]

Assassin 102 Walk-through[24 steps]
Hidden Text:
Prelims
i. n1: 5(2) = {14/23}
ii. n2: 11(3) no 9; 17(2) = {89}
iii. n4: 22(3) no 1..4; 9(2) no 9; 9(3) no 7,8,9
iv. n5: 20(3) no 1,2
v. n6: 12(2) no 1,2,6; 11(3) no 9
vi. n7: 6(2) no 3,6..9; 14(2) no 1..4 nor 7
vii. n8: 22(3) no 1..4
viii. n9: 11(2) no 1; 10(2) no 5

1. 17(2)n2 = {89}: both locked for r3

2. 22(3)n4 = 9{58/67}: 9 locked for n4

3. "45" n1: r4c1 + 5 = r3c23
3a. max. r3c23 = [74] = 11 -> max r4c1 = 6

4. "45" c1: 3 innies r159c1 = h20(3)
4a. = {479/569/578}(no 1,2,3) ({389} blocked by no candidates in r9c1) = [8/9..]
4b. = [4/5] but not both -> no 4 or 5 in r15c1
4c. r8c2 = {12}

5. hidden killer pair {89} in c1. h20(3) has just 1 of 8/9 for c1 (step 4a). The only other place for 8/9 is r2c1
5a. r2c1 = (89)

6. "45" r12: r2c19 = h13(2) = [85/94]
6a. r2c9 = (45)
6b. min. r2c9 = 4 -> max. r34c9 = 8 (cage sum)(no 8,9)

7. "45" n36: 2 innies r3c7 + r6c9 = 15 = [87/96]
7a. r6c9 = (67)
7b. min. r6c9 = 6 -> max. r78c9 = 7 (cage sum) (no 7,8,9)

8. "45" c9: r159c9 = h20(3) and must have 8 & 9 for c9 = {389} only : all locked for c9
8a. 11(3)n6 must have 3/8 = {128/137/236} (no 4,5)
8b. 11(3) = one of 3/8 -> no 3/8 in r56c8
8c. r9c9 = (389) -> r8c8 = (238)

9. complex implied cage block: r9c123 = [4/6] (if 5 in r9c1 -> 14(2)n7 = {68}; if 5 not in r9c1 -> r9c1 = 4)
9a. ->{46} combo blocked from 10(2)n9 = {19/28/37} = [3/8/9]

10. complex hidden single on 9 in n9 in 11(2) & 10(2). (if 9 is not in 11(2)n9 it must be {38} -> 10(2)n9 = {19})
10a. 9 locked for n9 & r9 in r9c789

11. 14(2)n7 = {68}: both locked for n7 & r9
11a. no 2 in 10(2)n9
11b. no 3 in r8c8

12. Killer pair (39) in 10(2)n9 & r9c9: 3 locked for n9 & r9

13. 2 in r9 only in n8: 2 locked for n8
13a. (including!...since I often forget if it's the same cage) no 2 in r8c5
13b. 15(4)n8 must have 2: {1347/1356} blocked

14. Don't know what happened to this step(?)

15. Hidden Killer pair {45} in r9: r9c456 must have one of 4/5 for r9, only other spot is r9c1
15a. ->15(4)n8 must have at least 1 of 4/5 = 2{148/157}(no 3,6,9) ({2346} blocked by 3 & 6 only available in r8c5)
15b. 15(4)n8 = one of 4/5 -> no 4/5 in r8c5
15c. 15(4)n8 = 12{48/57} -> 1 locked for n8

16. "45" r9: r8c258 = h11(3)
16a. only has candidates {1278} which sum to 18
16b. only way to get back to 11 is without the 7
16c. ->h11(3) = {128} only: all locked for r8

17. 13(3)n8 cannot have 1/2 so = {346} only
17a. -> no 6 in r8c4
17b. [missed this one] 3 only in r78c6: 3 locked for n8 & c6

18. 7 & 9 in r8 are only in 22(3)n8 = {679} only
18a. r7c4 = 6
18b. r8c34 = {79}

19. Naked Pair (NP) {34} in r78c6: both locked for n8, c6 & 13(3) cage
19a. ->r8c7 = 6

20. r9c1 = 4 (hsingle r9)
20a. h20(3) r159c1 = {79}[4]: 7 & 9 both locked for c1`

21. r8c2 = 2 (cage sum)
21a. r8c58 = [18]

22. r9c9 = 3 (cage sum)
22a. 10(2)n9 = {19}: 1 locked for n9

23. r7c5 = 8 (hsingle n8)

24. r2c19 = h13(2) = [85]

rest is easy stuff

Cheers
Ed


Last edited by Ed on Mon May 19, 2008 9:51 am, edited 2 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:48 am 
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Ed wrote:
About A102 Afmob wrote:
Note that this Killer was derived from a famous Sudoku. Do you know which one?
No idea... Bit one-eyed!

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man :pirate: is king :king:. As Børge would say, I'm completely clueless! :viking:

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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:10 am 
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Ed wrote:
A102 is a really fun puzzle - lots of hidden nuggets. No chains needed, though agree with gary on the 1.25 rating. Did use one complex implied cage block. No real cage-placement/combination work either which was a relief after I kept going wrong in n5 with A101 :scratch: .

A fun puzzle, all right. But it took me a lot longer to solve it on my first go than A101 because I didn't see the killer pair {89} in c1 which sets r2c1 to {89} :oops: . My notes from the second run look like Ed's walkthrough so there will be none by me.

Rating: for me it was a bit harder than A101... I would give it a 1.25

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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:08 am 
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Since everybody seems to agree on a rating of 1.25 I post my way of solving this Assassin which I think still fits to a (hard) 1.0 Killer.

After Ed's step 8:

9. 12(3) @ C9 = {147/156/246} -> R34C9 <> 4,5 because R2C9 = (45)

10. Naked quad (1267) locked in R46C9+R56C8 for N6
10a. 12(2) <> 5
10b. Killer pair (38) locked in 12(2) + R5C9 for N6

11. 5 locked in R4C78 @ N6 for R4
11a. 16(3) @ N6 = 5{29/47} -> R3C8 = (27)

12. Killer pair (27) locked in R3C8 + 11(3) for C8
12a. 11(2) = {38} locked for N9
12b. 10(2) <> 2,7
12c. Hidden Single: R1C9 = 9 @ C9, R3C7 = 8, R3C6 = 9
12d. Innies N36 = 15(1+1) = [87] (step 7) -> R6C9 = 7

13. 2,7 locked in R9C456 for N8
13a. 15(4) = {1257} locked for N8
13b. Hidden Single: R9C9 = 3 @ R9, R8C8 = 8, R5C9 = 8

Puzzle is cracked.

Like I said before I'll be off this week, so here is the famous Sudoku I was refering to and which inspired this Killer.

The famous Sudoku is:
Hidden Text:
The Golden Nugget
.......39.....1..5..3.5.8....8.9...6.7...2...1..4.......9.8..5..2....6..4..7.....

This is one of the hardest Sudokus known so far with an incredible SudokuExplainer (v1.2.1) Rating of 11.9. It was created by Tarek: http://www.sudoku.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=4212&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=675.
For more infos, look here: http://www.sudoku.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=4212&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=795


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 Post subject: Re: Assassin 102
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:18 pm 
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Hi folks,

Nasenbaer's A101 broke the mould by being the first original Killer-X Assassin. Afmob's A102 did likewise by being the first Assassin to contain mulitple diagonal cages. The puzzle below continues both themes by simply combining them. Unless I'm very much mistaken, it should make a refreshing change from the usual "fiddly" V2... :-)


Assassin 102X (A102X) (Est. rating: 1.25)

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3x3:d:k:2304:3329:3329:5891:5891:5891:1030:1030:3592:3849:2304:4875:4875:5891:2318:2318:3592:3089:3849:3859:3859:4875:2326:2318:4632:4632:3089:3849:7708:2077:3859:2326:4632:3361:5666:3089:7708:7708:2077:3367:3367:3367:3361:5666:5666:3885:7708:2077:3632:2865:3378:3361:5666:4149:3885:3632:3632:3129:2865:5691:3378:3378:4149:3885:1600:3129:3129:4931:5691:5691:3398:4149:1600:2121:2121:4931:4931:4931:2638:2638:3398:

Note: It's a Killer-X, where no repeated digits are allowed on either diagonal.

Solution:

8 4 9 2 7 5 3 1 6
7 1 5 6 9 3 2 8 4
3 6 2 8 1 4 9 7 5
5 9 1 7 8 2 4 6 3
6 7 4 9 3 1 8 5 2
2 8 3 4 5 6 1 9 7
4 3 7 1 6 9 5 2 8
9 5 8 3 2 7 6 4 1
1 2 6 5 4 8 7 3 9

SudokuSolver v3.1 scores this at 1.06, which is probably not far off the mark.

Happy manual solving!


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