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Author:  enxio27 [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

Can someone please translate the Japanese instructions for me for the two-doku puzzle in the upper right (link below)? I'm trying to find out the significance of the cells marked "A", "B", and "C".

http://www.mathpuzzle.com/Sudoku/WeiHwa ... parade.gif

Author:  Børge [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

If you somehow are able to copy and paste the Japanese instructions, you can use http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ to get a rough translation.

Author:  enxio27 [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

Børge wrote:
If you somehow are able to copy and paste the Japanese instructions, you can use http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ to get a rough translation.


Unfortunately, all I have is an image, and no way (that I know of) to convert it to even Japanese text.

Author:  simon_blow_snow [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

I am pretty sure it is just a simple gimmick from the magazine. If you buy the actual hard copy of the magazine and mail them the values of A, B and C, they will award you a little present or something.

As the puzzle stands you can easily solve all the grid values, even only using a pen.

I think one of the presents is that mini-hifi on the left side of the page.


2 footnotes:

(1) You can produce the text from the image via a proper OCR software.

(2) From my experience babelfish is a much better Japanese to English translation engine than google, but even it is not half as good as a human translator with a mild knowledge of the Japanese language.

Author:  Børge [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

I assume that you hoped that ton, which I assume is Japanese, would help you with the translation.
Sorry if my answer somehow prevented that. I replied to your post before reading the Gattai-105 post by ton.

I agree with simon_blow_snow. The puzzle is very easy, I used N/H singles, plus a couple of interactions. The puzzle is solvable using N/H singles only.
If you still would like a translation, try sending ton a PM or an email.

Here a couple of images, the code strings, and the solution.

Image     Image

600700500004003008090010070100400200009008001030050080000900000008000000060000004
900000050000000100000004000080070040600100900005003007060030080100500200004002006

Solution:
Image

Author:  enxio27 [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

simon_blow_snow wrote:
I am pretty sure it is just a simple gimmick from the magazine.


OK.

Quote:
As the puzzle stands you can easily solve all the grid values, even only using a pen.

That's good to know. It's one of the puzzles I got stuck on, so my first action was to go back to the original. I saw those cells with the letters and wondered whether they represented an additional constraint. Then I got to checking the puzzle and realized that I had made a mistake in transcribing the clues (changed a 3 into a 2). The puzzle is going well now, although I haven't yet finished it (restarted it at bedtime last night and got too sleepy about half-way through).

Quote:
(1) You can produce the text from the image via a proper OCR software.

Unfortunately, I don't know of any OCR software that will read non-Latin characters. I'm sure it's out there, but I wouldn't know where to find it, even if I could afford it.

Quote:
(2) From my experience babelfish is a much better Japanese to English translation engine than google, but even it is not half as good as a human translator with a mild knowledge of the Japanese language.

Good to know about babelfish. One that I have found to be excellent for Russian and German is at www.promt.com . I wish it did Dutch.

Author:  enxio27 [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

Børge wrote:
I assume that you hoped that ton, which I assume is Japanese, would help you with the translation.

That was my thought (his first post arrived on the forum just as I was trying to figure out what I'd done wrong with this puzzle), but I figured that someone else here might also be able to read Japanese and help me as well. It's all good now, though, I think. Thanks for your help!

Author:  enxio27 [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with Japanese puzzle instructions

Got it finished! Maybe I should send off for that prize? LOL!! :lol:

It was a rather easy puzzle, once I got all the clues copied correctly.

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