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Author:  Børge [ Mon May 05, 2008 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Regular Samurai #2

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There are four difficulties to choose from.
Here you can find more information regarding the required solving techniques for each difficulty.
All four difficulties are variations of the same puzzle, i.e. they have identical solutions.

This time I personally found the Apprentice version a bit too easy, so in the future I will probably try to notch it up a bit, unless feedback tells me not to do so.

On the paper the Guru version looks very difficult and requires 6 different advanced techniques, but wizard Glyn probably just pulls a thread (chain) somewhere and then the tapestry unravels completely.

A) Novice.
B) Apprentice (mainstream edition).
C) Master.
D) Guru.



Regular Samurai #2A (Novice)

Rating based on required solving techniques:  Moderate
My personal rating based on actual solving: Easy

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Regular Samurai #2B (Apprentice)

Rating based on required solving techniques:  Tough
My personal rating based on actual solving: Moderate

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Regular Samurai #2C (Master)

Rating based on required solving techniques:  A bit Super Hard
My personal rating based on actual solving: Extra Hard

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Regular Samurai #2D (Guru)

Rating based on required solving techniques:  Really Ultra Hard

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Author:  Glyn [ Wed May 07, 2008 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Regular Samurai #2

Best so far for #2D needed 3 chains and an X-wing, to keep it as fish free as possible. Haven't checked if the X-wing can go as well. Didn't write them down so will have to recheck later.

Rechecked
Top Left Grid. One AIC.
Centre Grid. X-wing, XY-Wing, AIC and Skyscraper (one of each). (Must have use a contradiction move first time around :oops: ).
Bottom Right Grid. One AIC.
Apart from that locked candidates and N/H sets.

Author:  Børge [ Wed May 07, 2008 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Regular Samurai #2

Very Impressive. Just rearranged the solving techniques in JSudoku ... all chains directly after N/H Subsets. Then no X-Wing or other Fish is required, but N/H Singles, Intersections and 13 Chains.
Now I just have to restore the settings. Being able to save settings to a file would be a blessing, but perhaps :santa: comes before Christmas this year.

Author:  jsmif [ Thu May 08, 2008 2:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Regular Samurai #2

I found the mainstream vers to be a good match in difficulty level to the contest samurais at the old place.

Which were always a bit easy, yes -- you could certainly toughen them up a bit as far as I'm concerned. I'm curious to see what other 'mainstreamers' have to say if/when they start wandering over here and commenting....

Author:  Beemer [ Thu May 08, 2008 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Regular Samurai #2

It took me just over an hour to complete (apprentice.) Am I a mainstreamer? /shrug Used Clueless Helper and SudoCue to get past a few silly clues I overlooked in the middle puzzle. I don't really want to spend more than an hour on a single puzzle, so the time to solve was solid IMO.

It did seem that a lot of clues are generated in the middle puzzle to solve the outer puzzles. I would like to see more clues generated in the outer puzzles to either help with the inner or cascade to the other outer puzzles (locked candidate or naked pair/triple.) Was tempted to try the Master level difficulty but your rating scared me off, probably rightly so...

Thats my 2 cents. :salute:

Author:  Børge [ Thu May 08, 2008 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Regular Samurai #2

Thanks for the feedback.
For the time beeing I will NOT do any changes to the difficulty.

Beemer wrote:
I don't really want to spend more than an hour on a single puzzle, so the time to solve was solid IMO.
Neither do I, but the time is of course dependent on skills and experience. For me it went quite a bit faster.

It would be interesting to know if you needed approx. the same time for Ruud's Samurais rated Tough? My personal solving time for Ruud's Samurais rated Tough varied extremely, 10-90 minutes, because I sometimes overlooked a naked pair in two cells wide appart.

Beemer wrote:
It did seem that a lot of clues are generated in the middle puzzle to solve the outer puzzles. I would like to see more clues generated in the outer puzzles to either help with the inner or cascade to the other outer puzzles (locked candidate or naked pair/triple.)
IMHO quite similar to Ruud's Samurais. Just take a look at the images at SudoCue.net. But I can try to change that.

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