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 Post subject: Cage Pairs 3
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:16 pm 
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Cage Pairs 3

This is part of a series of 4 the main one being KiCo3 which I have not solved to my satisfaction yet. This is the hardest one with no colours to help. But as Ed asked for it - he gets it.

edit: Only the forced singlet is allowed all others are doublets or triplets.

This is harder than #2. One move in my solution borders on T&E.

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Ed: In the KiCo (Killer Colour) all cages totals are colour coded and colours must not touch which obviously helps. In plodding through the KiCo version on the plane yesterday I came accross a move I had missed which I think will solve my T&E problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Cage Pairs 3
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:39 pm 
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Really nice puzzle HATMAN so thankyou for making it. Funnily enough, I didn't find it as hard as Cage Pairs 2, since step 1 somehow jumped straight out. Though it took a long time to see step 3. It's cracked from step 7 so has a very long tail which I have only put the start of in this walkthrough.

If there are any mistakes, corrections or clarifications needed, please let me know.

Walkthrough for Cage Pairs 3
17 steps:
Prelims
i. 12,11(2+2) at r1c3: no 1
ii. 8,7(2+2) at r1c9: no 8,9
iii. 13,11(2+2) at r3c2: no 1
iv. 14,11(2+2) at r3c6: no 1
v. 11,5(3+2) at r4c7: no 9
vi. 15,11(2+2) at r5c9: no 1
vii. 9,8(2+2) at r7c2: no 9
viii. 9,7(2+2) at r8c5: no 9
ix. 12,12(2+2) at r8c7: no 1,2

1. "45" on n9: 7 outies!! r56c9 + r6c8 + r6c56 + r79c6 = 52
1a. max. r6c8 + r79c6 = 26 (9+8+9) -> r56c9 + r6c56 min. 26
1b. -> must be 15(2) + 14(2) to make it to min. 26
1c. 15(2) at r56c9 = {69/78}
1d. 14(2) at r6c56 = {59/68}
1e. -> 3 remaining outies n9 = 23
1f. max. r79c6 = 17 -> min. r6c8 = 6
1g. max. r6c8 = 9 -> min. r79c6 = 14 (no 1..4)
1h. r7c67 = 10(2)(no 5), max. r7c7 = 4
1i. r67c8 = 11(2), max. r7c8 = 5

2. 11,5(5) at r4c7 must be 5(2) since min. any 3 cells is 6
2a. 5(2) must be at r5c56 = {14/23}
2b. 11(3) at r456c7

3. "45" on n6: 1 remaining outie r3c9 + 2 = 1 remaining innie r6c8
3a. but [68/79] clashes with 15(2) at r56c9 -> = [46/57]
3b. r3c9 = (45), r6c8 = (67)
3c. r7c8 = (45) (11(2) permutations)

A fun one, don't think it's needed.
4. "45" on n6: 2 remaining outies r3c9 + r7c8 = 9 = {45}
4a. 4 and 5 locked in common peers at r123c8 and r789c9

5. "45" on n9: 1 outie r9c6 - 2 = 2 innie r7c78
5a. max. 2 innies = 7 -> max. r7c7 = 2
5b. min. 2 innies = 5 -> min. r9c6 = 7
5c. r7c6 = (89) (10(2) cage)

6. Killer pair 6,7 in 15(2) at r5c9 and r6c8: both locked for n6

7. 11(3) at r4c7 = {245} only ({128} blocked by r7c7): all locked for c7 & n6

It's cracked from now so only essential clean-up done.
8. r7c7 = 1 -> r7c6 = 9 (10(2) cage)

9. r34c9 can only be 6(2) since no 6 nor 7 are available in r4c9 for an 11(2)
9a. r34c9 = [51]
9b. -> r6c8 = 7 (step 3a) and r7c8 = 4 (11(2) cage)

10. r7c78 = 5 -> r9c6 = 7 (i/o n9)

11. 15(2) at r5c9 = {69}: both locked for c9 & n6

12. r45c8 = {38}: both locked for c8

13. "45" on r89: 2 outies r7c29 = 12(2)
13a. ->r7c29 = [57] (last permutation)

14. r9c67 can only be a 13(2) cage since no 5 is in r9c7 for a 12(2)
14a. r9c7 = 6

15. r8c78 = 12(2) = [39] (only permutation)

16. r78c9 must be 9(2) cage since no 6 in r8c9
16a. -> r8c9 = 2
16b. r9c89 = [58]

17. "45" on c89: 1 remaining innie r1c8 = 1

Continue along in similiar vein with a couple of killer pairs thrown in. The only thing to watch is that the 12,6(4) at r4c4 must have a 6(1)
solution:
.-------------------------------.-------------------------------.-------------------------------.
| 5 6 2 | 9 7 3 | 8 1 4 |
| 7 8 4 | 6 5 1 | 9 2 3 |
| 3 9 1 | 8 2 4 | 7 6 5 |
:-------------------------------+-------------------------------+-------------------------------:
| 9 2 5 | 7 8 6 | 4 3 1 |
| 4 7 6 | 1 3 2 | 5 8 9 |
| 1 3 8 | 4 9 5 | 2 7 6 |
:-------------------------------+-------------------------------+-------------------------------:
| 8 5 3 | 2 6 9 | 1 4 7 |
| 6 4 7 | 5 1 8 | 3 9 2 |
| 2 1 9 | 3 4 7 | 6 5 8 |
'-------------------------------.-------------------------------.-------------------------------'
Cheers
Ed


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 Post subject: Re: Cage Pairs 3
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:36 am 
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I did not see that excellent N9 move - which covered my T&E problem

but you missed the R3C3 move:
N1: 12&11, 13&11 <>1,
either 10(2) ={19} or r3c3 = 1 -> r3c3 <>9 (does not do much but I like it)
C1 min max -> 1<r1c1<8 -> r1c2<>12
Outies r12 -> r3c18 = 9(2) -> r3c1 <9 -> r2c1<>1, 1 locked r3c13 for R3
-> r3c1, r7c8 <>8 -> r2c1 <>2
N3:8&7 yg <>89 r3c18-> r3c1 <>1 HS r3c3 =1
-> r4c3 =5/9 -> r4c56 <>{59}


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 Post subject: Re: Cage Pairs 3
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:35 pm 
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Ed

I started with a lot of work on N5 - which comes down to a small number of possibilities. Also the outies on N6 work with the I&O on N89.

With your move it may be possible to solve it allowing singles?

Maurice


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 Post subject: Re: Cage Pairs 3
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:52 pm 
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HATMAN wrote:
With your move it may be possible to solve it allowing singles?
I couldn't when I first tried the puzzle. It should mess up (what became) my step 3 since r5c56 = 5/6/7/8.

Back to the move I missed. Thanks for pointing that out. Nice hidden work in there. Unfortunately, allowing singles everywhere would mess that up too.

I also like that no 9 in r3c3. It's basically the "Locking Cages" technique (post coming to the techniques forum) but "Locking Cage-Cell" instead. Good one.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to put any more time in. Was another really good puzzle.

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