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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:03 pm 
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Børge, thanks for sharing your fascinating story with us! Am I right in pronouncing your (first) first name like "Birge" or "Burge" in English? :alien:
That's more than good enough. I am not picky at all when it comes to the pronunciation of my name(s). Over the years I have had my name(s) pronounced in so many interesting ways that I almost can write a book about it. ;)
Back in the 80ies when I worked for Control Data Corporation (CDC), my Aussie, UK and US colleagues pronounced my name like "Burge" or "Borge". My Spanish and French speaking colleagues had several very interesting pronunciations.

If you want to do it correctly, you probably have to take a Norwegian course first. In Sydney you surely can find that.

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udosuk wrote:
Am I right in pronouncing your (first) first name like "Birge" or "Burge" in English? :alien:
I forgot to mention that the 'e' in "Børge" is NOT pronounced like the 'e' in pretty, but like the 'e' in late or spade.

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Børge wrote:
I forgot to mention that the 'e' in "Børge" is NOT pronounced like the 'e' in pretty, but like the 'e' in late or spade.

So it's completely silent (unlike in German, where it would be a separate syllable)?


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Børge wrote:
I forgot to mention that the 'e' in "Børge" is NOT pronounced like the 'e' in pretty, but like the 'e' in late or spade.
So it's completely silent (unlike in German, where it would be a separate syllable)?
Hmm, I did not know that the 'e' in in late or spade is completely silent. I though it was only partially silent ? :?

The 'e' in Børge is NOT silent at all, but it is NOT pronounced like the letter 'e', but more like the 'e' in second. I personally pronounce the 'e' in Børge identical in German and Norwegian, and I would not say that it is a separate syllable. I would say that Børge has the two syllables "Bør" and "ge". But I am not a linguist. Are you?

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Now what we need is Victor Borge to give us a quick revision of 'Phonetic Punctuation'. Or Inflationary Language.

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Børge wrote:
Hmm, I did not know that the 'e' in in late or spade is completely silent. I though it was only partially silent ? :?

No, it's completely silent in English. All it does is force the 'a' to be long instead of short, but the 'e' itself is not pronounced at all.

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The 'e' in Børge is NOT silent at all, but it is NOT pronounced like the letter 'e', but more like the 'e' in second. I personally pronounce the 'e' in Børge identical in German and Norwegian, and I would not say that it is a separate syllable. I would say that Børge has the two syllables "Bør" and "ge".

OK, that's what I thought.

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But I am not a linguist. Are you?

I can't say I'm a linguist, but I did take a linguistics course in college. I also teach phonics to my children (we homeschool), and I've always had a fascination for languages.

My grandmother spoke four languages as a girl, but lost all of them except German when she came to the U.S. and learned English (no one around to speak the other three with). Her father spoke seven languages.

I picked up a smattering of German while I was growing up (my mother doesn't speak German, so we didn't speak it at home), and at one point, I was reading German at about a first-grade (grade 1) level. In high school, though, my only options were Spanish and French, so I picked Spanish. I'm moderately fluent in Spanish now, but I'm working (as much as I can) on adding German and Latin. Next year, my 12yo and I will be traveling to Italy, so we're working on Italian, as well.


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Børge wrote:
@Ed & Matt, sometime next week I will answer all your questions and some of your comments.
I hope this post answers all open questions, and that I have not forgotten any.



udosuk wrote:
I guess the usage of "solvers" to replace "techniques" is from JSudoku?
Correct!

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I never studied grammar at school and have always relied on what sounds right.
That’s what most people do in their native tongue, and probably a reason why in many countries teachers are complaining about (young) people having insufficient skills in their native language.
I bet that quite a number of native English speaking people say "He is taller than me." Instead of the grammatically correct "He is taller than I (am)."
I have learned that "than" either compares Subject Forms (I, He, She) or Object Forms (Me, Him, Her). Looked up a lengthy discussion on this topic in an English grammar forum a couple of days ago.

What few foreigners know is that in Norwegian verbs are not inflected for person, only for tense. I.e. in Norwegian there is no such ting as:
I           am
You are
He/She/It is
We are
You are
They are

In Norwegian it is:
I / you / he / she / it / we / you / they   are (or am or is).
I do not know which of the three English forms correspond to the Norwegian one "er".
This causes the first main problem for Norwegian children when learning foreign languages.
You can read more about this topic here: http://www.hum.uit.no/a/abels/ENG_1010/Seminar_X.pdf (Norwegian compared with English and French.)

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I played around a little bit with scoring your puzzles to try and get some correlation with your difficulty levels.
All the thumb rules I go by when creating puzzles are listed in the first three posts in "Børge’s Corner".

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BTW2 - what is the "Borge's Corner" solver sequence for SS
Below the unofficial "Borge's Corner" solver sequence for SS. It is unofficial since I have to verify for which Sudoku types and variants all the "... Cage ...", "... Killer ..." and "45 Rule ..." techniques/solvers are used.
Perhaps you can enlighten me.
HERE you can find the corresponding .solveroptions file.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:29 am 
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enxio27 wrote:
I also teach phonics to my children (we homeschool)... Next year, my 12yo and I will be traveling
We did these also. But no phonics. Didn't "teach" anything for that matter. Absolutely no bookwork/school work. Just did stuff, including living in SE Asia for 6 months. But did keep very detailed records of conversations, activities etc. My eldest, now at Uni (after 6 years at our local government High School), plans to use the records as source material when he finds the right project.

Sadly, we are all still seriously mono-lingual. Very ashamed and very jeolous of all you clever linguals. So, am very pleased for you enxio.

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