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Author:  enxio27 [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
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Just curious, though, how do I only display the grid ( and the controls below the grid) in SS. That is, I don't want to display the dialog and other stuff that is to the right of the basic 9x9 grid. A standard sudoku puzzle is able to be displayed just showing the 9x9 grid and the controls below it.

Do you mean that you don't want to see any text in the white box in the lower right quarter of the SudokuSolver window? If so, you can just highlight and delete it. If you mean that you want to completely hide the right side of the window, I don't know how to do that. Best to ask Richard in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=995

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I recall the sumocue program from Ruud, but never bothered with it, since I didn't care for the killer puzzles.

I'm the same way. My only contact at all with SumoCue is the code that is also used for jigsaw puzzles. It's rather clumsy for that purpose, though.

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I will have to look into the sudoku grabber function in SS.

It's actually a separate program. More info here:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=969
Author:  nj3h [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
Here is a jigsaw puzzle created as described above.

SumoCueV1=0J0=0J0=1J1=0J1=0J1=0J1=6J1=0J2=0J2=1J0=2J0=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J1=0J2=0J2=0J2=0J0=0J3=0J0=0J4=0J4=2J1=7J1=0J2=6J2=0J3=0J3=5J4=0J4=0J5=0J1=8J5=0J2=0J2=4J3=0J3=0J3=0J4=7J5=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J5=7J3=0J3=0J4=0J4=0J5=0J6=0J5=0J7=0J7=0J8=0J3=0J8=0J4=0J4=8J6=0J6=0J7=9J7=0J8=6J8=0J8=0J8=0J8=0J6=0J7=8J7=0J7=0J8=0J8=0J6=5J6=3J6=0J6=0J6=2J7=0J7
Author:  enxio27 [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
Very good! Just for interest's sake, here is how your puzzle would look in the code I'm working on (I did this manually, so hopefully I didn't make any mistakes):

Code:
aabbbbbccaaaaabcccadaeebbccddeefbfccdddefffffddeefgfhhidieegghhiiiiighhhiiggggghh001000600120000000000002706005000800400070000700000000000008009060000080000530020


Each nonet is represented by a different letter. If you arrange the letters in 9 equal rows, it describes the jigsaw pattern. The digit portion of the code is used exactly like the 81-character code for standard 9x9 puzzles.
Author:  nj3h [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
I find your coding to be understandable. It would then be easy to figure things out manually, just like you did to create the string in your message.

The only downside would be that JSudoku has no way to be modified to use this coding methodology. So one is still stuck with the sumocue coding method. But I do like your idea. Wish it had been around earlier.

By the way, I have posted a couple of messages to Richard to hopefully look at. I am really puzzled about the samurai message I posted. Almost makes me think there is a glitch somewhere. Can you see if you get the same results that I do?

Regards,
George
Author:  enxio27 [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
By the way, it sure is good to see you here again. It seems that for a long time now, I've been the only one here who isn't into killers, and in the last few weeks, I've been feeling completely abandoned, as though I were talking to myself.

I've been on something of a samurai kick lately. Do you like those (and other gattai)? What other variations do you like besides jigsaw? I'll take just about any 9x9 variation (including multi-grid) that doesn't involve actual arithmetic (mathematical comparisons are ok). Vanilla 9x9 are ok, too.
Author:  enxio27 [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
nj3h wrote:
The only downside would be that JSudoku has no way to be modified to use this coding methodology. So one is still stuck with the sumocue coding method.

I find myself using JSudoku less and less as Richard adds new capabilities to SudokuSolver. About the only thing left that JSudoku can do that SudokuSolver can't is generate new puzzles, but even those can be exported and then imported into SudokuSolver. If Richard adds capability for my jigsaw code, it will be able to import SumoCode from JSudoku and export my code.

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By the way, I have posted a couple of messages to Richard to hopefully look at. I am really puzzled about the samurai message I posted. Almost makes me think there is a glitch somewhere. Can you see if you get the same results that I do?

I can't promise anything, but I'll sure take a look!
Author:  enxio27 [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
George, here's a German Web site with jigsaw sudoku that I forgot to mention:

http://derstandard.at/r4159/Sudoku

They have jigsaw puzzles every other day (alternating with sudoku-X) back to December 2007 (Kalenderwoche 50) in their archives (Sudoku-Archiv). These puzzles are produced by WebSudoku.com but are different from the ones that appear on that site.
Author:  nj3h [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
Thanks for the link. In fact, I took one of the jigsaw puzzles and have the grid, which I will attach with this message. I entered the grid into SS and exported the sumocue code for it.

I wanted to use this jigsaw grid to have Jsudoku create a puzzle. The other night, I could paste as jigsaw into Jsudokue with the sumocue code on the clipboard. Now that will not work. For the fun of it, can you try and see if you get anywhere with it? Thanks

SumoCueV1=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J1=0J1=0J1=0J2=0J2=0J2=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J1=0J1=0J1=0J2=0J2=0J2=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J1=0J1=0J1=0J2=0J2=0J2=0J3=0J3=0J3=0J4=0J4=0J4=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J3=0J3=0J3=0J4=0J4=0J4=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J3=0J3=0J3=0J4=0J4=0J4=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J6=0J6=0J6=0J7=0J7=0J7=0J8=0J8=0J8=0J6=0J6=0J6=0J7=0J7=0J7=0J8=0J8=0J8=0J6=0J6=0J6=0J7=0J7=0J7=0J8=0J8=0J8

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Jigsaw Sudoku Grid.jpg
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Author:  enxio27 [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
Hmmmm. . . All I'm getting from that SumoCue code in BOTH programs is a blank 9x9 standard grid. Let me try a few other things and get back to you.


UPDATE: I put that puzzle into SudokuSolver and generated a new SumoCue code for it. I was able to take that SumoCue code and paste it into JSudoku as a jigsaw template. That makes me think that your SumoCue code is faulty.

Code:
SumoCueV1=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J3=0J3=1J3=0J3=0J0=0J0=6J0=0J0=3J5=0J5=0J3=9J3=0J3=7J1=6J1=0J1=9J7=0J5=0J5=0J5=3J3=8J3=8J1=1J1=4J7=0J7=6J5=0J5=0J5=0J4=0J4=4J1=0J1=1J6=0J7=0J7=0J7=2J5=0J4=9J4=0J1=0J1=0J6=0J6=7J6=0J7=1J7=4J4=2J4=2J2=3J2=0J6=4J6=0J6=6J7=0J4=7J4=1J4=0J2=4J2=0J2=0J6=2J6=0J8=5J8=0J8=0J8=0J2=8J2=0J2=0J2=0J8=0J8=0J8=0J8=0J8


Once again, I'm curious. Was this puzzle generated by JSudoku, or did you find it elsewhere?
Author:  nj3h [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Additional SudoCue Question
Congrats on getting it to work. My sumocue code came from SS when I had it export the definitions. Now I wonder why I got a different text string?

Went back to SS and I still get the same sumocue as I did earlier. Very strange.

Did you manually enter the puzzle into SS?

I did, but also entered a puzzle. Then I cleared the cells so just the grid remained.

My string had no values in it. I thought one could just convert a jigsaw pattern to a sumocue string that would be acceptable to Jsudoku

The grid came from a current puzzle at the German site you gave me the link for.


UPDATE: I think this might be the problem. I didn't have Jsudoku set jigsaw mode. Went to design/blocks/new jigsaw blocks or nonets. It appears that the string read in correctly at that point.
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